Episodes

  • Episode 570: The Murder Of Jack Wilson
    Jun 3 2024

    On the evening of May 22, 1992, Betty Wilson returned home from an AA meeting to find her husband, Dr. Jack Wilson, had been beaten and stabbed to death in what she assumed was a burglary gone wrong. Betty ran to a neighbor’s house to call 911, and police arrived at the Wilson’s house a short time later to secure the scene.

    At first, investigators agreed with Betty’s theory that Jack had surprised a burglar and was then killed. The problem, however, was that nothing appeared to have been taken, nor did it appear that the house had been ransacked. A few days later, a tip led detectives to James White, who quickly confessed that he murdered Jack Wilson at the request of Betty and her twin sister, Peggy Lowe, with whom he was in love.

    Betty Wilson and her sister, Peggy, were both arrested and went on to be tried for capital murder, while James White accepted a plea deal in exchange for testifying against both women. After a brief trial, a jury found Betty guilty, and she was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Peggy Lowe, on the other hand, was tried for the same crime, but just a few months after her sister’s verdict was read, Peggy was found not guilty. How was it both women could face the same charges, under the same circumstances, and be tried with the same evidence, but receive opposite outcomes?

    Thank you to David White, of Bring Me the Axe podcast, for research!

    References

    Associated Press. 1992. "Friends of accused express disbelief." Montgomery Advertiser, July 13: 13.

    —. 1992. "Suspect's former lover quits post." Montgomery Advertiser, June 24: 18.

    —. 1992. "Twin sisters suspects in man's murder." Selma Times-Journal, June 7: 7.

    Betty Woods Wilson v. State of Alabama. 1995. 690 So. 2d 449 (Court of Criminal Appeals of Alabama, May 5).

    Carey, Bob. 1998. "The Murder." Old Huntsville: History and Stories of the Tennessee Valley, 1.

    Dunnavant, Robert. 1992. "Shelby man says he killed doctor to win twin's love." Birmingham Post-Herald, June 6: 1.

    1996. Forensic Files. Produced by Paul Bourdett. Performed by Ed Freeman.

    Marshall, Mike. 2006. "Serving time for murdering husband, Betty Wilson remarries in prison." Dothan Eagle, May 3: 3.

    Newberry, Paul. 1993. "Surprise testimony in Wilson murder trial." Anniston Star, February 28: 1.

    —. 1993. "Wilson defense mocks, picks apart testimony ." Birmingham Post-Herald, February 25: 1.

    Reeves, Jay. 1993. "Betty Wilson silent as jury gets her case." Anniston Star, March 2: 2.

    —. 1993. "Deliberation starts in case of woman accused of plotting husband's slaying." Montgomery Advertiser, March 3: 1.

    Richardson, Sandee. 1993. "Wilson trial begins." Birmingham Post-Herald, February 24: 1.

    Schutze, Jim. 2023. By Two and Two: The Scandalous Story of Twin Sisters Accused of a Shocking Crime of Passion. New York, NY: Open Road Media.

    Sikora, Frank. 1993. "Mrs. Wilson's disgust toward husband detailed." Birmingham Post-Herald, February 27: 1.

    Thornton, Donna. 2022. "Filmmaker contends doctor's wife wrongly convicted." Montgomery Advertiser, August 29: 1.

    Wilson, Betty. 1998. "The Betty Wilson story." Old Huntsville: History and Stories of the Tennessee Valley, 1.

    Witt, Elaine. 1993. "Mrs. Wilson guilty, gets life in prison." Birmingham Post-Herald, March 4: 1.

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    1 hr and 24 mins
  • Episode 569: “Weirdos’ Audiobook Club” presented by Audible – Desperate Deadly Widows with Special Guest, Sheena Melwani
    May 31 2024

    Weirdos!! It’s a SPECIAL BONUS EPISODE brought to YOU by our friends at Audible! Today we’re joined by Sheena Melwani to chat about the Audible original, “Desperate Deadly Widows”! Join the “Weirdos’ Audiobook Club’ AND the conversation as we talk about our favorite characters, themes, and scenes! Haven’t listened yet? Don’t worry about it, friend! Go to Audible.com/weirdos for YOUR free trial! And don’t forget to click the episode post on Instagram to comment YOUR favorite part of the book, and discuss with other Weirdos who enjoyed the title, as well!

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    38 mins
  • Episode 568: Listener Tales 86
    May 30 2024

    It’s Listener Tales 86 This week’s episode is brought to you by... Dads, coffee cups, and whoppers! We hear about an encounter with big foot, an EVP from a ghost hunt at a cemetery, dreams haunted by a pregnant woman, and the underlying story of the crime that lead to hauntings at the Field farm!

    If you’ve got a listener tale please send it on over to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with “Listener Tales” somewhere in the subject line :)

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    1 hr and 13 mins
  • Episode 567: Fred & Rose West (Part 4)
    May 27 2024

    Part four focuses on Fred & Rose West's final crimes, and the events leading up to their arrest. Their subsequent trials would become the focus of the nation as people learned of the atrocities performed at their home.

    Thank you to the wondrous Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for Research!

    References

    Amis, Martin. 2000. When darkness met light. May 11. Accessed March 21, 2024. https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/may/11/features11.g2.

    BBC News. 1998. Fred West 'admitted killing waitress'. March 25. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/69928.stm.

    —. 2001. How many more did Fred West kill? September 27. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1567038.stm.

    —. 2021. The 12 victims of Fred and Rosemary West. May 27. Accessed March 18, 2024. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-57182844.

    Bennett, Will. 1995. Step-daughter Charmaine was first to die. November 22. Accessed March 19, 2024. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/stepdaughter-charmaine-was-first-to-die-1583071.html.

    Birmingham Evening Mail. 1974. "Missing girls theory." Birmingham Evening Mail, January 7: 1.

    Birmingham Post. 1968. "Missing waitress mystery deepens." Birmingham Post, January 23: 2.

    —. 1974. "Student missing for six days may return ton university-police." Birmingham Post, January 2: 2.

    —. 1968. "Yard detectives join search for Gloucester girl." Birmingham Post, January 9: 1.

    Campbell, Duncan. 1995. "How a string of girls came to die in depraved and appalling circumstances." The Guardian, October 7.

    Duce, Richard. 1995. "West's suicide avenged killings, QC tells jurors." The Times, November 16.

    Duce, Richard, and Bill Frost. 1995. "Court told of depravity at 25 Cromwell Street." The Times, October 7: 4.

    Evening Post. 1968. "Helicopter joins hunt for Mary." Evening Post, January 8: 1.

    Evening Standard. 1974. "Have you spotted this girl?" Evening Standard, July 4: 18.

    Frost, Bill. 1995. "Cromwell Street murders case man is dead." The Times, Janaury 2.

    Frost, Bill, and Richard Duce. 1995. "I'm being made a scapegoat, says West." The Times, November 2.

    —. 1995. "No place for sentiment, West jurors are told." The Times, October 4.

    —. 1995. "West: I fell under Fred's spell." The Times, October 31.

    Gloucester Echo. 1994. "Did builder know Mary?" Gloucester Echo, March 8: 3.

    —. 1994. "Graden bodies: Who were they?" Gloucester Echo, March 2: 1.

    Gloucestershire Echo. 1995. "From angelic child to coldest of killers." Gloucestershire Echo 5.

    —. 1995. "Fred West found dead." Gloucestershire Echo, January 2: 1.

    —. 1995. "I'll see you in court, Rose." Gloucestershire Echo, January 4: 1.

    Knight, Adam. 2014. Fred West's brother denies incest claims. November 7. Accessed March 17, 2024. https://www.herefordtimes.com/news/11587578.fred-wests-brother-denies-incest-claims/.

    Lee, Adrian, Tim Jones, and Damian Whitworth. 1996. "Fred West's brother hangs himself." The Times, November 29.

    Ovington, Paul. 1974. "Hunt steps up as fear grows for Lucy, 21." Western Daily Press and Times, January 4: 1.

    Sounes, Howard. 1995. Fred & Rose: The Full Story of Fred and Rose West and the Gloucester House of Horrors. New York, NY: Open Road Media.

    United Press International. 1995. "British jury convicts West of 10 murders." UPI Archive, November 22.

    West, Mae, and Neil McKay. 2018. Love as Always, Mum: The True and Terrible Story of Surviving a Childhood with Fred and Rose West. London, UK: Seven Dials Press.

    Williams, Martin. 1994. "'Our sister is still alive'." Gloucester Echo, February 26: 1.

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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • Episode 566: Fred & Rose West (Part 3)
    May 23 2024

    Part three focuses on the pattern formed by the West's subsequent murders, as well as a hiatus from killing that was marked by countless sexual assaults.

    Thank you to the wondrous Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for Research!

    References

    Amis, Martin. 2000. When darkness met light. May 11. Accessed March 21, 2024. https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/may/11/features11.g2.

    BBC News. 1998. Fred West 'admitted killing waitress'. March 25. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/69928.stm.

    —. 2001. How many more did Fred West kill? September 27. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1567038.stm.

    —. 2021. The 12 victims of Fred and Rosemary West. May 27. Accessed March 18, 2024. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-57182844.

    Bennett, Will. 1995. Step-daughter Charmaine was first to die. November 22. Accessed March 19, 2024. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/stepdaughter-charmaine-was-first-to-die-1583071.html.

    Birmingham Evening Mail. 1974. "Missing girls theory." Birmingham Evening Mail, January 7: 1.

    Birmingham Post. 1968. "Missing waitress mystery deepens." Birmingham Post, January 23: 2.

    —. 1974. "Student missing for six days may return ton university-police." Birmingham Post, January 2: 2.

    —. 1968. "Yard detectives join search for Gloucester girl." Birmingham Post, January 9: 1.

    Campbell, Duncan. 1995. "How a string of girls came to die in depraved and appalling circumstances." The Guardian, October 7.

    Duce, Richard. 1995. "West's suicide avenged killings, QC tells jurors." The Times, November 16.

    Duce, Richard, and Bill Frost. 1995. "Court told of depravity at 25 Cromwell Street." The Times, October 7: 4.

    Evening Post. 1968. "Helicopter joins hunt for Mary." Evening Post, January 8: 1.

    Evening Standard. 1974. "Have you spotted this girl?" Evening Standard, July 4: 18.

    Frost, Bill. 1995. "Cromwell Street murders case man is dead." The Times, Janaury 2.

    Frost, Bill, and Richard Duce. 1995. "I'm being made a scapegoat, says West." The Times, November 2.

    —. 1995. "No place for sentiment, West jurors are told." The Times, October 4.

    —. 1995. "West: I fell under Fred's spell." The Times, October 31.

    Gloucester Echo. 1994. "Did builder know Mary?" Gloucester Echo, March 8: 3.

    —. 1994. "Graden bodies: Who were they?" Gloucester Echo, March 2: 1.

    Gloucestershire Echo. 1995. "From angelic child to coldest of killers." Gloucestershire Echo 5.

    —. 1995. "Fred West found dead." Gloucestershire Echo, January 2: 1.

    —. 1995. "I'll see you in court, Rose." Gloucestershire Echo, January 4: 1.

    Knight, Adam. 2014. Fred West's brother denies incest claims. November 7. Accessed March 17, 2024. https://www.herefordtimes.com/news/11587578.fred-wests-brother-denies-incest-claims/.

    Lee, Adrian, Tim Jones, and Damian Whitworth. 1996. "Fred West's brother hangs himself." The Times, November 29.

    Ovington, Paul. 1974. "Hunt steps up as fear grows for Lucy, 21." Western Daily Press and Times, January 4: 1.

    Sounes, Howard. 1995. Fred & Rose: The Full Story of Fred and Rose West and the Gloucester House of Horrors. New York, NY: Open Road Media.

    United Press International. 1995. "British jury convicts West of 10 murders." UPI Archive, November 22.

    West, Mae, and Neil McKay. 2018. Love as Always, Mum: The True and Terrible Story of Surviving a Childhood with Fred and Rose West. London, UK: Seven Dials Press.

    Williams, Martin. 1994. "'Our sister is still alive'." Gloucester Echo, February 26: 1.

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Episode 565: Fred & Rose West (Part 2)
    May 20 2024

    Part two delves into Fred's life after he met Rose, exploring the origins of the affair leading to their marriage and the beginning of the sadistic crimes that would horrify the world at large.

    Thank you to the wondrous Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for Research!

    References

    Amis, Martin. 2000. When darkness met light. May 11. Accessed March 21, 2024. https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/may/11/features11.g2.

    BBC News. 1998. Fred West 'admitted killing waitress'. March 25. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/69928.stm.

    —. 2001. How many more did Fred West kill? September 27. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1567038.stm.

    —. 2021. The 12 victims of Fred and Rosemary West. May 27. Accessed March 18, 2024. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-57182844.

    Bennett, Will. 1995. Step-daughter Charmaine was first to die. November 22. Accessed March 19, 2024. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/stepdaughter-charmaine-was-first-to-die-1583071.html.

    Birmingham Evening Mail. 1974. "Missing girls theory." Birmingham Evening Mail, January 7: 1.

    Birmingham Post. 1968. "Missing waitress mystery deepens." Birmingham Post, January 23: 2.

    —. 1974. "Student missing for six days may return ton university-police." Birmingham Post, January 2: 2.

    —. 1968. "Yard detectives join search for Gloucester girl." Birmingham Post, January 9: 1.

    Campbell, Duncan. 1995. "How a string of girls came to die in depraved and appalling circumstances." The Guardian, October 7.

    Duce, Richard. 1995. "West's suicide avenged killings, QC tells jurors." The Times, November 16.

    Duce, Richard, and Bill Frost. 1995. "Court told of depravity at 25 Cromwell Street." The Times, October 7: 4.

    Evening Post. 1968. "Helicopter joins hunt for Mary." Evening Post, January 8: 1.

    Evening Standard. 1974. "Have you spotted this girl?" Evening Standard, July 4: 18.

    Frost, Bill. 1995. "Cromwell Street murders case man is dead." The Times, Janaury 2.

    Frost, Bill, and Richard Duce. 1995. "I'm being made a scapegoat, says West." The Times, November 2.

    —. 1995. "No place for sentiment, West jurors are told." The Times, October 4.

    —. 1995. "West: I fell under Fred's spell." The Times, October 31.

    Gloucester Echo. 1994. "Did builder know Mary?" Gloucester Echo, March 8: 3.

    —. 1994. "Graden bodies: Who were they?" Gloucester Echo, March 2: 1.

    Gloucestershire Echo. 1995. "From angelic child to coldest of killers." Gloucestershire Echo 5.

    —. 1995. "Fred West found dead." Gloucestershire Echo, January 2: 1.

    —. 1995. "I'll see you in court, Rose." Gloucestershire Echo, January 4: 1.

    Knight, Adam. 2014. Fred West's brother denies incest claims. November 7. Accessed March 17, 2024. https://www.herefordtimes.com/news/11587578.fred-wests-brother-denies-incest-claims/.

    Lee, Adrian, Tim Jones, and Damian Whitworth. 1996. "Fred West's brother hangs himself." The Times, November 29.

    Ovington, Paul. 1974. "Hunt steps up as fear grows for Lucy, 21." Western Daily Press and Times, January 4: 1.

    Sounes, Howard. 1995. Fred & Rose: The Full Story of Fred and Rose West and the Gloucester House of Horrors. New York, NY: Open Road Media.

    United Press International. 1995. "British jury convicts West of 10 murders." UPI Archive, November 22.

    West, Mae, and Neil McKay. 2018. Love as Always, Mum: The True and Terrible Story of Surviving a Childhood with Fred and Rose West. London, UK: Seven Dials Press.

    Williams, Martin. 1994. "'Our sister is still alive'." Gloucester Echo, February 26: 1.

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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • Episode 564: Fred & Rose West (Part 1)
    May 16 2024

    In this four part series, we dive into the horrific crimes of Fred & Rose West. We begin by exploring Fred's formative years which laid a foundation for his callousness and depraved appetites.

    Thank you to the wondrous Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for Research!

    References

    Amis, Martin. 2000. When darkness met light. May 11. Accessed March 21, 2024. https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/may/11/features11.g2.

    BBC News. 1998. Fred West 'admitted killing waitress'. March 25. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/69928.stm.

    —. 2001. How many more did Fred West kill? September 27. Accessed March 19, 2024. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1567038.stm.

    —. 2021. The 12 victims of Fred and Rosemary West. May 27. Accessed March 18, 2024. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-57182844.

    Bennett, Will. 1995. Step-daughter Charmaine was first to die. November 22. Accessed March 19, 2024. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/stepdaughter-charmaine-was-first-to-die-1583071.html.

    Birmingham Evening Mail. 1974. "Missing girls theory." Birmingham Evening Mail, January 7: 1.

    Birmingham Post. 1968. "Missing waitress mystery deepens." Birmingham Post, January 23: 2.

    —. 1974. "Student missing for six days may return ton university-police." Birmingham Post, January 2: 2.

    —. 1968. "Yard detectives join search for Gloucester girl." Birmingham Post, January 9: 1.

    Campbell, Duncan. 1995. "How a string of girls came to die in depraved and appalling circumstances." The Guardian, October 7.

    Duce, Richard. 1995. "West's suicide avenged killings, QC tells jurors." The Times, November 16.

    Duce, Richard, and Bill Frost. 1995. "Court told of depravity at 25 Cromwell Street." The Times, October 7: 4.

    Evening Post. 1968. "Helicopter joins hunt for Mary." Evening Post, January 8: 1.

    Evening Standard. 1974. "Have you spotted this girl?" Evening Standard, July 4: 18.

    Frost, Bill. 1995. "Cromwell Street murders case man is dead." The Times, Janaury 2.

    Frost, Bill, and Richard Duce. 1995. "I'm being made a scapegoat, says West." The Times, November 2.

    —. 1995. "No place for sentiment, West jurors are told." The Times, October 4.

    —. 1995. "West: I fell under Fred's spell." The Times, October 31.

    Gloucester Echo. 1994. "Did builder know Mary?" Gloucester Echo, March 8: 3.

    —. 1994. "Graden bodies: Who were they?" Gloucester Echo, March 2: 1.

    Gloucestershire Echo. 1995. "From angelic child to coldest of killers." Gloucestershire Echo 5.

    —. 1995. "Fred West found dead." Gloucestershire Echo, January 2: 1.

    —. 1995. "I'll see you in court, Rose." Gloucestershire Echo, January 4: 1.

    Knight, Adam. 2014. Fred West's brother denies incest claims. November 7. Accessed March 17, 2024. https://www.herefordtimes.com/news/11587578.fred-wests-brother-denies-incest-claims/.

    Lee, Adrian, Tim Jones, and Damian Whitworth. 1996. "Fred West's brother hangs himself." The Times, November 29.

    Ovington, Paul. 1974. "Hunt steps up as fear grows for Lucy, 21." Western Daily Press and Times, January 4: 1.

    Sounes, Howard. 1995. Fred & Rose: The Full Story of Fred and Rose West and the Gloucester House of Horrors. New York, NY: Open Road Media.

    United Press International. 1995. "British jury convicts West of 10 murders." UPI Archive, November 22.

    West, Mae, and Neil McKay. 2018. Love as Always, Mum: The True and Terrible Story of Surviving a Childhood with Fred and Rose West. London, UK: Seven Dials Press.

    Williams, Martin. 1994. "'Our sister is still alive'." Gloucester Echo, February 26: 1.

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    1 hr
  • Episode 563: A Deeper Look at the Crimes of Joran van der Sloot With Christopher Cassel
    May 13 2024

    We are joined by Christopher Cassel, Director of 'Pathological: The Lies of Joran Van Der Sloot', We discuss his documentary which dives deep into the crimes of the Van Der Sloot, and the countless people his actions have negatively impacted.


    Want to see the documentary? Stream it now on Peacock!

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    58 mins