In this special episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Seth "Creek" Creekmore and Mario Sikora are joined by Christian McClain, a songwriter and musician, for an exercise that determines someone’s Enneagram type. Mario conducts a typing interview, talking to Christian and asking him questions about his career and family to try to understand who he is. Mario then shares his thought process towards his provisional hypothesis as a result of this conversation.

“I’m getting to know Christian in a different way, which is fun.” -Creek [17:16]

“My goal when I’m talking to people is just to get them to talk. And I don’t care what they talk about or where they go, I just want them to talk.” -Mario [17:53]

“I think putting something and leaving something behind, it sounds silly, because no one knows who I am as an artist. I’m not a big deal, but to know that there is something, a little piece of me, a journal entry that was put to music, to know that that’s out in the world, it’s kind of nice to know that there’s something that would live past you.” -Christian [26:07]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[00:19] This week’s guest, Christian

[01:02] This week’s exercise

[03:34] What listeners should look out for

[05:16] Getting to know Christian

[16:51] Seth’s thoughts and Mario’s goal

[18:05] More about Christian

[27:06] A few of Mario’s observations

[30:27] Disconfirming questions

[34:32] Mario’s process

[36:37] A moment to gather your thoughts

[37:27] Mario’s provisional hypothesis

[47:09] Suggestions and feedback

[52:39] Where to find Christian’s music

[54:35] Outro

Connect with us:

Awareness to Action

Enneagram on Demand

IG: @ataenneagrampod

The Instinctual Biases and Subtypes Weekend Workshop: subtypesworkshop.com

Mario Sikora:

IG: @mariosikora

TikTok: @mariosikora

Web: mariosikora.com

Pod: Enneagram in a Movie

Substack: mariosikora.substack.com

Maria Jose Munita:

IG: @mjmunita

Web: mjmunita.com

Seth "Creek" Creekmore:

IG: @_creekmore

Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Pod: Delusional Optimism

Christian McClain:

IG: @christianmcclain_