No one is immune from making a stupid decision. Not even a pastor from one of the country’s largest churches. Let me introduce you to Lee Coate.

Lee is an executive pastor at The Crossing Church in Las Vegas. He’s a sought-after speaker and consults other churches and ministries all across the country. And his advice is based on experience — painful experience at that.

At one point in his career, Lee was so burned out he “pulled the ripcord,” as he puts it. That decision led to a lot of pain, but also a lot of growth.

That growth has now culminated in a new book called “Being Peter,” where Lee unpacks what it means to be a “Type I” (Intense, Innovative, Instigator, Impulsive) leader, and why God doesn’t demand those who are Type I to “quiet down,” but rather uses their bold personalities for good.

In Episode 11 of “That Was Stupid,” Lee joins to talk about:

-His truly stupid decision made out of burn-out

-How he found healing from his past

-Mental health and taking medication

-Being adopted

-What it means to be a “Type I” leader

-His new book, “Being Peter,” and how people who lead loudly and largely don’t have to hide who they are

-And more!

If you’d like to watch the video version of the podcast, it’s available at readdearjon.com.