• #003: Holly Whitaker - Respecting the Order of Life

  • Feb 24 2023
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  • FEB 24 • 1 hour 5 minutes 50 secondsWTRB Episode #003: Holly Whitaker and Respecting the Order of LifeThe third guest on WTRB is Holy Whitaker, a New York Times bestselling author, and speaker. Her book "Quit Like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in a Culture Obsessed with Alcohol," was published in 2019 and has received praise for its fresh perspective on sobriety and addiction.In this episode we covered:How identity and a company you started can be intertwined and what it's like to have it taken away.Navigating the chaos of major life transitions by creating space and allowing things to unfold.The power of reframing ambition and purpose.The importance of waiting, trusting the order of things, and embracing wonder.Acknowledging that everyone is in recovery.On the other side of her transition, Holly discovered that addiction and recovery are part of her story but no longer her identity. And this experience inspired her to step into her power as a writer, launch a Substack called Recovering, and work on a new book about being lost rather than sobriety.— — — — — —Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Simplecast.To sign up for the newsletter and podcast visit https://www.wheretheroadbends.fm/—Where to find Steve Schlafman:• Website: https://www.schlaf.co/  • Twitter: @Schlaf• Facebook: Steve Schlafman• LinkedIn: Steve Schlafman—Where to find information on Holly Whitaker:• Website: www.hollywhitaker.com• Instagram: @holly Where to find information on Holly’s writing:• Substack:  Recovering Newsletter• Email Course: The Mantra Project – 40 days of Sobriety• Book: Quit Like a Woman: The Radical choice to Not Drink in a Culture Obsessed with Alcohol Referenced:Carl RogersBruce FeilerSimone de Beauvoir – Writer and Philosopher – The Ethics of AmbiguityPema Chodron – The Fundamental Ambiguity of Being HumanAbraham Hicks: You Can’t Get There from ThereSteve Schlafman: The Mountain You’ve Been Climbing Doesn’t ExistChögyam Trungpa QuoteHolly Whitaker: Newsletter #39 How to find your life’s purposeQuitted Podcast: Interview with Aki Ito on Hustle Culture & How We Got HereThe Web Telescope picturesSpiral DynamicsCarl Fisher – His book ‘The Urge” says calling addiction a disease is misleadingKitchen Safe Time Locking ContainerAndrew Tatarsky – Founder and director of the Center for Optimal Living In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Holly Soundbite(00:17) Steve’s introduction about Holly(01:44) Beginning of the interview(02:10) Steve and Holly’s connection(03:00) 2019 / 2020 – A hectic time - closing a Series A and a house at the same time(03:30) The calling to have a social impact in the space of Recovery(04:30) On writing and becoming a new author(05:50) Fitting personal life amid trying to juggle it all(06:35) Covid impact on life and business(07:30) Relieved – the gift of stopping and tuning into the woods(07:58) The weight of using your personality to build a company and sell a book(09:00) After raising $20M – achieving the dream – it was still so empty(10:41) How much of a difference of outward success and how you feel in the inside(11:02) July 2020, “I don’t want to be CEO anymore”(11:40) What Holly was longing for(12:20) Holly is a creator – replacing herself as a CEO(13:20) Identity and story of company are deeply intertwined(14:15) Holly using herself as the way forward to create the narrative around recovery and her company(15:35) Leaving Tempest - April 2021 – Going on sabbatical(19:10) Committed to not jumping on ‘the next thing’(19:45) Holly gives herself space for the first time(21:00) Staying in the middle – and finding meaning and worth without creating something validating(21:37) The moment that Tempest was going to close – confronting “I failed”(22:28)  A dinner – everyone had a great job – the only thing that matters is that “I am here”(23:34) Steve walking away from running his own VC(24:02) Steve’s year of stillness(24:27) Navigating the liminal space – experiencing a ‘lifequake’ after Tempest(27:30) So much happening and nothing happening at all(28:20) Being in the messiness but trusting and expecting how things unfold(29:05) It’s all ambiguous – we create structure for safety(30:15) Trying to get to the feeling of fullness(30:50) Getting to the Present Moment(31:04) Big transformations and big learnings for Holly – You don’t have to have a purpose.(32:45) Waiting for an external event to give yourself a moment of contentment(34:00) The simple moments in life – no other purpose really matters(34:30) It matters more how you move throughout your day that creates massive change(36:15) Finding purpose and meaning in work is a lie (37:28) Satisfaction is obtained more by your orientation to the world(37:50) A story of a famous editor(39:15) The feeling like you need to outdo yourself – how Holly use to view ambition(40:55) Looking at ambition in multiple dimensions of ...
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