To introduce this podcast episode, Emily and Jamie discuss Jamie’s 13th wedding anniversary and her upcoming trip. They go on to reflect on the importance of self-care and introduce this episode’s guest, Jackie Lightner, talking about the different levels of mental health care and the unique approach of her program, Lightwork Therapy.

Jamie talks with Jackie Lightner, LICSW, and Executive Director of Lightwork Therapy and Recovery, a mental health service provider for women in Massachusetts. They discuss the evolving landscape of mental health care for women, acknowledging historical biases and the pressure on women to fulfill multiple roles. They explore societal expectations, the normalization of therapy, and challenges in accessing mental health support. The conversation delves into the need for intensive outpatient programs (IOPs) for women, highlighting issues with insurance coverage and the importance of tailored, supportive environments like Lightwork's female-focused space. They further discuss the challenges individuals face when transitioning from hospitalization to home care, highlighting the unpredictable wait times and insurance coverage issues. They emphasize the importance of navigating the system and advocating for proper care, sharing personal experiences and strategies to streamline the process. Jackie shares Lightwork’s different approaches and experts, as well as their structured 20 week curriculum that covers themes like safety, guilt, and shame. They emphasize the importance of self-care for high-functioning individuals, providing accessible help without the need for referrals. Jackie highlights their commitment to connecting individuals with appropriate care, even if it's not with them. She encourages reaching out via their website or Instagram for support.

In this week’s Q&A, Emily and Jamie prepare listeners for the warmer weather by answering a question about the use of bug spray on 2 year olds.

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