On October 6, 2023, I spoke with the Rev. Bill Kirlin-Hackett about his work on homelessness in the Seattle area. His advocacy and program work, especially for vehicle residents, began in 2001 and continues today. He is the director of the Interfaith Task Force on Homelessness. He spoke with me about the various renditions of the 10-Year Plan to End Homelessness, his work on the Scofflaw Mitigation Program (vehicle residency outreach) that he co-founded in 2011, his work on Safe Lots Programs and vehicle outreach programs, including at U Heights, and his work with various leaders of faith-based communities on a more compassionate approach to homelessness. Kirlin-Hackett highlights compassion, charity, and justice as all three being necessary to counter what he views as the "contempt for humanity" that prevails among many elected officials and the general public. He calls on all of us to "affirm your gift" and work to do what we can to ameliorate the suffering of people surviving (and too often not surviving) homelessness in our midst. I've talked with other people recently who have been working on homelessness in our area for a long time. Along with them, Kirlin-Hackett asks what it will take to create the political will to end homelessness.