Today is a very packed day for album releases, ranging from acclaimed indie acts (Clairo! Cassandra Jenkins! ) (34:00) to the opposite of acclaimed indie acts (a new Eric Clapton live album!) (10:15). Steven and Ian looked at the slate and decided to play FMK (2:00), touching on albums from Cigarettes After Sex (19:50), Eminem (17:00), Sturgill Simpson (23:15), Phish (8:00), Travis (12:00), and more. Steven also asked Ian for his thoughts on the recent Zach Bryan LP, and finds that Ian isn't really on board (26:15).

In the mailbag, they answer a question about whether there are "Joe Biden-esque bands" that need to retire (38:30), and then they delve deep into amorphous concept known as Odelay-core (46:55).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks up the power pop band Macseal and Steven stumps for Detroit singer-songwriter Conor Lynch (53:40).

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