Jedi hosts Chan, co-founder of ALEX, as they discuss the current state of blockchain, and decentralized finance (DeFi) with a focus on Bitcoin.

They discussed ALEX as a comprehensive ecosystem that includes multiple components, such as a decentralized exchange (DEX), lending and borrowing platforms, and a cross-chain liquid layer to bring DeFi to Bitcoin.

The conversation delves into the challenges of building on Bitcoin, including the lack of smart contract capability and the need for bridging between different blockchains.

Chan also discusses the importance of user experience and the need for permissionless trading environments.

Jedi hosts TN, CEO and co-founder of Pendle, a DeFi protocol as they discuss the growth of Pendle, the role of points in DeFi, the potential of Bitcoin DeFi, and the evolution of the cryptocurrency market.

Pendle's strategy is to focus on becoming the premier destination for yield-related activities, and the team is working on expanding its functionality to support various types of yields.

The conversation also touches on the challenges of onboarding new users, the role of education, and the importance of partnerships.

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Jedi hosts Erin, a co-host of the podcast 'Hell Money'. Erin shares her experience with creating a podcast about Bitcoin, and her thoughts on Ordinals and the NFT space.

She also discusses her project, 'Ephemera', which aims to inscribe astronomical data onto Bitcoin, creating a decentralized timekeeping mechanism.

Throughout the conversation, Erin shares her philosophical perspective on Bitcoin, its role in human history, and the importance of thinking about Bitcoin in terms of deep time.

She emphasizes the significance of inscribing meaningful data onto Bitcoin, making it a digital megalith that can preserve human knowledge and culture for centuries to come.

Jedi hosts Herman around the adoption of bitcoin as a medium of exchange in township in South Africa.

Herman shares the story of how he and his team introduced Bitcoin to the local community, starting with a small group of coaches who were paid in bitcoin.

They discuss the struggles of Bitcoin adoption in South Africa and the bigger philosophical conversations around the use of Bitcoin as digital gold instead of a means of payment.

The ultimate goal of the Ekasi is to create a circular economy where bitcoin is used as both a store of value and a medium of exchange, empowering individuals and businesses in the community.

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Jedi hosts Jameson, co-founder and Chief Security Officer of Casa, about various concepts in crypto, including Bitcoin, decentralization, and self-custody.

The conversation covers topics such as ETFs, institutionalization, and the potential risks of centralization.

Jameson also shares his thoughts on the current state of DeFi and the importance of true decentralization.

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Jedi hosts Red, from Bitcoin Layers, as they discussed the complexity of Bitcoin's scaling solutions. Bitcoin Layers is a DeFi dashboard that outlines the trust assumptions and risks of different Bitcoin solutions.

The discussion touched on the need for privacy in scaling solutions and unilateral exits, which allow users to withdraw their funds without permission.

The conversation also explored the concept of BitVM, a strategy for bridging that uses Bitcoin transactions to enforce computation done elsewhere.

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Jedi hosts return guest Rich Rines from CoreDAO as they talk about new developments in the Bitcoin DeFi space.

They discuss CoreDAO's mission to help scale Bitcoin and address security budget concerns by creating new revenue streams for miners through staking and DeFi activities.

The conversation highlights CoreDAO's growth, including a rise in Total Value Locked (TVL) and user engagement. Rich emphasizes the need for a symbiotic relationship between Bitcoin and CoreDAO to maximize Bitcoin's liquidity and ensure its sustainability.

The discussion also explores the technical integration between the networks and the challenges of educating and involving Bitcoin miners and holders in this new model.

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Jedi hosts Danny and Chad as they discuss Bitcoin DeFi, particularly through the development of OpNet and Motoswap, which aim to bring smart contracts and decentralized exchange functionality directly to Bitcoin's Layer 1.

The speakers introduced the idea of "SlowFi," highlighting how Bitcoin's slower block times could create more sustainable and stable DeFi ecosystems. The meeting showcased innovative approaches to integrating Bitcoin into decentralized finance while preserving its core principles.

The podcast delved into the critical role of user experience (UX) in the evolving DeFi landscape, particularly concerning Bitcoin.

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