Shannon Perez-Darby and Tashmica Torok discuss Britney Spears, the nuances of conservatorship, mad liberation, and the liberatory possibilities of dancing on the internet with our first guest ever - mad queer mama, Zara Raven.

Zara Raven isn't just our premiere Abolitionist Britney building a world without prisons + policing, starting at home. They are the coordinator for Queenies Crew, an initiative that engages children in learning about building communities of care without prisons or policing, the former director of Collective Action for Safe Spaces in D.C., a grassroots, trans and queer-led organization that focuses on creating safe republic spaces, and a cocreator of 8 to Abolition. For more information about Zara, visit https://linktr.ee/bubblybutfierce.

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Credits:

• Executive Producers: Shannon Perez-Darby and Tashmica Torok
• Audio Production: Shannon Perez-Darby
• Show Notes + Art: Tashmica Torok