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  • Episode 530 How Agencies Can Embrace Perpetual Uncertainty with Drew McLellan
    Nov 30 2025

    Welcome to a transformative solo episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan invites listeners to reframe how they view uncertainty, chaos, and change in the agency world. Drawing from both scientific research and personal stories—including a gripping childhood encounter with real fear—Drew McLellan explores why agencies feel paralyzed by unpredictability, and more importantly, how leaders can move beyond fear to thrive in today's rapidly shifting landscape.

    Listeners will discover why uncertainty is baked into agency life, why our brains crave control, and why periods of upheaval—from economic turmoil and technological breakthroughs to social unrest—can actually be seen as fertile ground for growth and innovation. Drew McLellan champions the concept of a "perpetual renaissance," encouraging agency leaders to harness rather than resist continual change and to build their businesses on adaptability, creativity, and community.

    Throughout the episode, Drew McLellan underscores the power of belonging and reciprocal support, likening the AMI community to a network of redwoods—each agency strengthened by connection with others. He shares actionable advice on showing up as both a teacher and a student in industry salons, generously exchanging knowledge and resources so everyone thrives amid uncertainty. Insights from neuroscience, evolutionary biology, and agency research come together with practical wisdom to reveal how leading through chaos isn't about control, but about learning to ride the storm—together.

    Don't miss this deeply encouraging and practical episode, especially if you're looking for ways to put fear aside and become the agency clients seek out for guidance and innovation. By embracing the value of community and the inevitability of change, you'll gain a new perspective on how to master—and even enjoy—the wild ride ahead. Join the conversation, connect with the AMI salon, and help shape the future of your agency in 2026 and beyond.

    A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here.

    What You Will Learn in This Episode:
      • Embracing uncertainty as a constant in agency life
      • Reframing fear of change into excitement for opportunity
      • The power of community and collaboration for agency leaders
      • Leveraging perpetual innovation and renaissance as a competitive edge
      • The necessity of group learning and support to overcome decision paralysis
      • Leading clients confidently through chaos and continual change
      • Adopting a "giver's gain" mindset to strengthen agency networks and growth
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    56 m
  • Episode 529 Unlocking Growth Through Collaborations with Nicole Mahoney
    Nov 23 2025

    Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan is joined by returning guest Nicole Mahoney, an accomplished agency owner and thought leader renowned for her innovative work in collaboration within the travel and tourism space. Drawing on her 15 years of industry expertise, Nicole shares how strategic partnerships have propelled her agency to new heights—even during challenging times like the pandemic.

    Together, Drew McLellan and Nicole Mahoney dig deep into the multifaceted nature of agency collaboration, both with competitors and complementary businesses. Nicole reveals insights from her research, podcast, and her newly released book, breaking down the different types of collaborators—the promoters, doubters, and protectors—and why understanding these archetypes is key to building mutually beneficial relationships. They also explore how agencies can be more intentional with partnerships to drive growth, resilience, and innovation.

    Expect actionable frameworks, real case studies of cross-agency teamwork, and candid stories about what works (and what doesn't) when it comes to navigating collaborations—from RFP responses to co-hosting major events. Nicole introduces her proven "3C framework" for successful partnerships and shares how agencies can assess and operationalize collaboration as part of their strategic planning, especially heading into 2026.

    If you're rethinking how to strengthen your agency's network, improve client offerings, or simply want to learn from real-world examples of effective coopetition, this episode is packed with takeaways. Don't miss this opportunity to hear fresh perspectives on how working together not only benefits your agency, but helps build a stronger, more connected industry.

    A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here.

    What You Will Learn in This Episode:

      • Building agency growth and resiliency through strategic collaboration
      • Understanding the three types of collaborators: promoters, doubters, and protectors
      • Operationalizing collaboration as an intentional business strategy
      • Keys to effective partnerships: communication, commonality, and commitment
      • Creating mutually beneficial relationships even with competitors (coopetition)
      • Leveraging collaborations to diversify offerings and better serve clients
      • Using partnerships to overcome resource gaps and win larger opportunities
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    53 m
  • Episode 528 Rethinking Agency Differentiation with Robin Bonn
    Nov 16 2025

    Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of Build a Better Agency! Host Drew McLellan sits down with Robin Bonn, agency veteran and founder of Codefinery, for a candid conversation that tackles one of the agency world's biggest challenges: true differentiation. Drawing on over two decades of industry experience and insights from his new book, Market of One, Robin unpacks why even the most creative agencies struggle to set themselves apart and how owners can reimagine their businesses for lasting competitive advantage.

    Drew and Robin delve deep into the heart of agency positioning, debunking the myths and tired tropes that so many firms rely on to claim they're "different." From generic claims about people and creativity to the pitfalls of "category norms," Robin shares why most agencies' attempts at standing out fall flat—and what it really means to create a business model that's as unique as a fingerprint. Listeners will hear practical advice for moving beyond superficial branding tactics and start building what Robin calls a "market of one"—where your agency's true value is clear, tangible, and uncopyable.

    The episode also explores the often-overlooked role of pricing as a key differentiator, the pervasive fear and herd mentality that keep agencies stuck, and the transformative impact of AI on agency business models. Robin challenges listeners to rethink everything from service offerings to client fit—encouraging leaders to embrace strategy, redefine success beyond just growth, and make bold choices that align with both financial health and personal fulfillment.

    Tune in if you're ready to move past the sea of sameness and face the future with optimism and intention. By the end of the episode, you'll walk away with actionable questions, a fresh strategic lens, and the inspiration to reshape not just what your agency does, but how—and why—you do it.

    A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here.

    What You Will Learn in This Episode:

      • Why true agency differentiation is so difficult—and why most agencies still struggle with it
      • Common pitfalls that lead agencies into the "sea of sameness"
      • Distinguishing between superficial distinctiveness and authentic, business-model-driven differentiation
      • The critical role of clear positioning and deep strategy in agency growth
      • How fear, herd mentality, and legacy habits hold agencies back from standing out
      • The power of pricing as an underutilized differentiator
      • Embracing change, enjoying the business, and defining what success means for your agency

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    53 m
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This is the ONLY business Podcast that I listen to on a regular basis. I have owned my Agency for over 30 years and I still walk away from nearly every episode with some new nugget of wisdom. I've shared the Podcast with my leadership team who listen to it often and my comments stemming from the show are so frequent it has become an inside joke when I begin a sentence with; "I was listening to my Agency Podcast the other day and they said..." If you own or run a marketing agency, you owe it to yourself to give this Podcast a listen.

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