We’re back! In this Season 5 premiere, the team reunites after their summer break to kick off an exciting new chapter. Join us as we catch up, share bold predictions for the year ahead, and explore big questions, like whether 2026 will be the year of the autonomous organization. Expect candid reflections, lively discussion, and a sneak peek at what’s coming up this season.

We are very keen this season to establish a feedback loop with listeners, so will be doing shows exploring listener questions and challenges - something we are really looking forward to. Please get in touch with us, via LinkedIn, Substack or cloudrealities@capgemini.com, if you have questions or challenges for us, we'd love to hear from you!

TLDR:

00:20 – We’re back!
00:35 – Catching up on what we did during the summer break
10:48 – Planning ahead until Christmas: Microsoft Ignite, AWS re:Invent, an AI mini-series and cool guests
20:27 – Tech talk: iPhone 17, deep democracy training, and the human impact of innovation
32:10 – Will autonomous organizations powered by agents emerge within 12–18 months?
40:45 – Reflections inspired by Jaws, climbing adventures, and Bruce Springsteen

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

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Dave, Esmee, and Rob are strapping in for another season of bold, brain-bending conversations—and they’re bringing the flux capacitor with them from Back to the Future.

Season 5 beams in global leaders and innovators who challenge how we think about technology, business, and humanity. From AI disruption to digital sovereignty, from leadership to culture—this season’s guests are ready to shake things up.

Our first full episode drops on September 25, but before we hit 88 miles per hour, here’s a quick trailer to set the timeline straight, or at least bend it a little.

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Dave, Esmee, and Rob take a moment to look back on the wild ride that was Season 4—revisiting the themes that sparked the biggest conversations and the guests who left a lasting impression. They also reveal what’s on their summer to-do lists and drop a few juicy hints about what’s coming in Season 5. Get ready—it’s going to be even bigger and bolder.

Thank you to all our listeners and guests for joining us in Season 4 - have a great summer and we will see you in September!

TLDR:
00:40 Season 4 by the numbers – and a fun mix-up with round figures
03:20 Reflecting on standout topics and memorable guests
03:42 Scaling AI: Hyperscaler narratives, tech momentum, and the adoption gap
13:18 Ethics in the AI era – how organizations can and must stay grounded
18:12 The human factor: Why “human-in-the-loop” matters more than ever
27:29 Sovereignty in tech – geopolitics, shifting narratives, and the rise of Sovereign AI
37:16 A deep dive into Telco – highlights from our dedicated mini-series
53:48 2025 tech trends with Gene Kim

55:33 Listener Q&A: Daniel Delicate on Cynefin vs. IT operating models
1:01:44 Andrea Kis on keeping humanity in fast-paced tech
1:06:09 Ezhil Suresh on how we prep and record our podcast with top-tier guests
1:11:38 John Eaton-Griffin on how guests have shaped our thinking
1:17:19 A word from our co-host
1:19:57 Looking ahead to Season 5: AAA episodes, new industry mini-series, and Hyperscaler events
1:22:09 Meet our new AI companions: Substack and the Cloud Realities chatbot
1:23:40 What’s next for us this summer

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

The rise of structure software fueled globalization by streamlining operations across borders. Now, Cloud and AI are accelerating this momentum, enabling faster innovation, smarter decision-making, and scalable growth. By modernizing ERP with intelligent technologies, organizations can stay agile, competitive, and ready for the next wave of global transformation.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Timo Elliott, Innovation Evangelist at SAP, to explore how SAP is driving globalization—and how organizations can accelerate innovation through the power of Cloud and AI.

TLDR
00:55 Introduction of Timo Elliott
02:40 Rob shares his confusion about misleading online ads
08:06 In-depth conversation with Timo
46:32 Rethinking control in enterprise systems
1:00:00 Brunch at a Paris café or joining an event?

Guest
Timo Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timoelliott/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

GreenOps is a cultural transformation that empowers developers to turn emissions data into meaningful action, bridging the communication gap with ESG teams and exposing the critical truth that cloud cost and carbon cost are not the same, which fundamentally reshapes how we approach sustainable IT.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to James Hall, Head of GreenOps at Green Pixie, to unpack the real state of GreenOps today—and why we’ve only just scratched the surface.

TLDR
01:57 Rob is confused about AGI
06:11 Cloud conversation with James Hall
22:10 Esmee as media archeologist, found GreenOps is 50 years old
30:46 Having some drinks in the summer

Guest
James Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-f-hall/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Quantum computing in 2025 is rapidly advancing toward commercialization, with breakthroughs in algorithms, scalable hardware, and cloud-based quantum services driving real-world applications across finance, healthcare, logistics, and cybersecurity

This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob dive into the cutting edge of quantum computing with Catherine Vollgraff Heidweiller, Quantum AI PM at Google, and James Goeders, Head of Product for Google Quantum AI, exploring how far we've come since our June 2023 Quantumania! episode and what to expect from Willow—the bold fusion of quantum, AI, digital integration, deployment, and the broader tech ecosystem.

TLDR
00:46 Meet Catherine and James – intros and backgrounds
02:22 Rob is confused about students using AI
09:40 Deep dive with Catherine and James on the current state and future of Quantum
48:01 Quantum isn’t just tech—it’s a whole new way of thinking
1:01:37 Seize the moment and bringing external users onto quantum hardware

Guest
Catherine Vollgraff Heidweiller: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cmv-vollgraffheidweiller/
James Goeders: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-goeders-8876a7164/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

The telecom industry is undergoing a fundamental transformation. This shift is creating new business opportunities and services but also brings significant challenges in transformation and modernization. In this special bonus episode, building on our Reimagining Telecoms mini-series, we dive into the current opportunities shaping today’s dynamic telco landscape.

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Vivek Badrinath, Director General of the GSMA about the current opportunities shaping today’s dynamic telco landscape and the role of GSMA.

TLDR
01:38 Introduction to Vivek and the bonus episode
03:48 In-depth conversation with Vivek Badrinath
42:13 Can empathy become a strategic KPI in telecom?
47:20 Event in Uzbekistan and doubling down on the digital ecosystem

Guest
Vivek Badrinath: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vivekbadrinath/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

with Praveen Shankar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/praveen-shankar-capgemini/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

[AAA] In 'Access All Areas' shows we go behind the scenes with the crew and their friends as they dive into complex challenges that organizations face—sometimes getting a little messy along the way.

This week, we address the ‘big rocks’ that can obstruct or delay successful outcomes in organizational transformations. Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Jasmin Booth, Head of Product Delivery to discuss the transformation to being a (digital) product based organization.

TLDR
05:22 Access All Areas: This third episode focuses on the products we build that drive outcomes.

06:52 Conversation with Jasmin about our digital products
37:06 What makes it better to be in a product centric organization?
54:00 Conclusion of the seven Big Rocks and how to smash them
59:00 Going on the Blue Bell railway

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

with Jasmin Booth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasminbooth15/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini