"That whole question of the invisible life...that there's something going on we cannot see that determines our health and the future of the planet." Dawn Garisch, one of South Africa's most pre-eminent writers, joins the Rippling Pages to talk about Breaking Milk, published in the UK by Heloise Press. Shortlisted for the prestigious Sunday Times South Africa/CNA Literary Awards '21, it finally lands on our shores. Dawn is also a doctor and a CEO of the Life Righting Collective, a non-profit organisation aiming to provide creative practice as a low-cost resource for humane, responsible and compassionate attitude in institutions and society as a whole. Find out more here: https://liferighting.com/ Rippling Points 1.40 - Who the narrator (Kate) of this novel is, and why Dawn chose to write about her at this point in the narrator's life. 7.00 - Why Dawn spent some time making cheese for the book 8.40 - what separates us from our parents and other people 11.43 - Kate's former job as a geneticist 14.26 - The voice of the inner critic 17.54 - The benefits of the life writing collective 21.00 - Kate's husband, the other writer in the book. 27.30 - Dawn's work as a doctor. Reference Points Christa Wolf - Accident: A Day's News J.M. Coetzee Disgrace Dawn Garisch - Eloquent Body Bessel Van der Kolk - The Body Knows the Score Jaakp Panksepp Donald Winnicott Virginia Woolf - Mrs Dalloway Virginia Woolf - A Room of One's Own.