[This episode, produced by Joey Svendsen, has Ellen Mauro, Jed Payne, Joey Svendsen, and special guest and original host to the show, Jared Svendsen]

Televangelists like Kenneth Copeland's behavior don't appear reflective of God by any means, and it certainly seems as if people are being led astray by the sort of prosperity gospel teaching he espouses. However, there seems to be more to Mr. Copeland's story and it's difficult ruling out just plain 'ol evil. Thus, Ellen, Jed, Jared and Joey do not.

The four also get an update from their good friend and co-host of the show, Hayne Griffen, a firefighter in Asheville NC smack dab in the middle of search and recovery, trying to help put the pieces of his community back together.

Lastly, Ellen finally gets to push back on the pushback she has received thus far to her plans to visit a medium to investigate talking to the dead.

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Host and producer, Joey Svendsen also hosts and produces other podcasts. Here's one, coming more from the church world:
Seacoast Church's Things You Won't Hear on Sunday Podcast

Other podcasts affiliated with co-hosts of PWNA:
Jed's Church & Other Drugs
Matt's The Great Deconstruction