In this conversation, Professor Jeremy Graham Frey discusses the early days of using MQTT in scientific research and the challenges and triumphs of integrating computers into research processes. He emphasizes the importance of curating and managing data to ensure its validity and usefulness. The conversation also explores the digitalization of lab equipment, leveraging sensors and cameras to extract data, and the benefits of remote monitoring and integrating data into virtual models. Dr. Frey highlights the synergy between human ingenuity and machine technology in enhancing experimentation and data analysis. In this conversation, Jeremy and Brian discuss the benefits and challenges of digitizing laboratory processes. Jeremy emphasizes the importance of keeping data in a digital format, especially for long-term storage and legal compliance. He also highlights the use of cameras to extract data from analog instruments, enabling their continued use. The conversation touches on remote monitoring, the role of intuition in scientific research, and the potential of AI to enhance data interpretation. Jeremy's goal is to create a lab environment that combines the strengths of technology and human creativity.