Author's of the book Who They Are and What They're Up To, Leslie and Stephen Shaw, join us on Pumpkin Hill to talk about their book and theories on the mysterious alien phenomenon happening around the world. Listen in to learn what might be flying these crafts and where they might come from.


Leslie Shaw was a journalist for 18 years. She is semi-retired and still works for the newspaper doing copy editing and page layout. She is a trained artist with a bachelor’s degree in experimental animation and ancient art history.

Stephen is a retired acupuncturist, tai chi instructor and orchestral musician.

They both have a lifelong love affair with the UFO subject.

They are both UFO witnesses and Stephen and his very psychic family have been victims of the alien abduction phenomenon for at least 3 generations.

They have spent 20 years researching their UFO book Who They Are: And What They’re Up To.

The blurb on the back of their book…

UFOs. Millions of witnesses have seen them, thousands have been taken by them and hundreds of books describe them, but here for the first time there is a book that delves into the hardest questions concerning them. WHO are flying them, WHERE are they coming from and the all important whys; WHY are they here, WHY are they seen so often, WHY are they preying on our people and our livestock and WHY is our government in league with them? This book addresses these questions and explores the motivation for their agenda and their bizarre breeding program.

https://www.amazon.com/Who-They-Are-What-Theyre/dp/B0BKCQ363C?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZRBxr91y_Ino8SDxEaV2A9sL9Ve7njqy-ChOH0tnXxNssgzond_nufuTA_aem_BnZHWoFPSsrjFMAwRMylqg

https://www.instagram.com/leslie.shaw.author?igsh=NHp5bnk4eHhndXR6

https://whotheyarebook.com/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAabH93rJ1hBeHEze7NJpx-chaceWOiwJS_IkAAgJeWNa7R93AxW6-FQmBHE_aem_Kcp_tk2SW951KgYyUxtlGw

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