In this episode of the Market Leaders Podcast, host David Ackert and guest Mira Dewji, Chief Inclusion and Diversity Officer at Seyfarth, have an insightful discussion about Mira’s journey from being an associate lawyer to becoming a leader in diversity and inclusion (DEI). Together, they explore the importance of moving beyond optics-driven DEI initiatives toward creating genuine, inclusive workplace cultures.

Mira and David delve into the significance of fostering environments where individuals can bring their whole selves to work, the impact of stakeholder-driven DEI efforts, and the challenges of balancing short-term and long-term DEI strategies. Mira emphasizes that effective DEI work requires contributions from everyone in the organization, not just those from underrepresented groups. This includes practical measures like performance evaluation criteria, job descriptions, and recognition of diversity efforts.

She also discusses the concept of the "diversity tax". She explores ways to mitigate it, such as clear performance evaluation questions, term limits for committee roles, and creditable hours for DEI contributions. Mira highlights the need for inclusive leadership, which involves being open to different perspectives, having uncomfortable conversations, and balancing both the moral and business cases for DEI.

The episode concludes with Mira offering advice to law firm leaders on addressing DEI challenges, particularly for mid-sized firms without client mandates. She encourages moving away from simplistic narratives and developing practical skills to foster long-term inclusion and diversity in the workplace.