One of the central questions in experience design is how to not only engage the audience for whom we are designing, but also how do we best include them in the process of design. But such a statement can sound more like a platitude than an actual instruction. It is one thing to say “be inclusive”, but another to be truly inclusive. This can seem challenging when a designer’s remit can be to design something that is attractive to a broad audience. If we are trying to attract a broad audience, then how do we consider the needs of those who may exist outside of that.

Diversity, equity, and inclusion is not a catchphrase when it comes to design. It is something that designers should be considering when trying to do designs that are representative, inclusive, and just. Part of the work of being a good designer is not only to believe in this, but also to get clients and employers to believe in this as well.

Any design process is political in that decisions have to be made that can affect stakeholders. How research questions are posed, data collected, results processes, and conclusions acted upon, can all be impacted by power. Those who are making decisions can do so in ways that further marginalization or increase inclusion. Which way things go depends on the conversations had and the decisions made.

Veronica Shelton and Hannah Ryu started the UX/UI design company Oak Theory with this understanding, and a goal of making inclusive design a core part of the design process. They are “on a mission to enhance digital design by championing authenticity and inclusivity.”

But to do so without creativity and strategy is not going to result in outcomes that best serve clients and impactful designs. So Oak Theory bridges all these elements, working with some of the biggest clients like IBM, Google, Figma, Adobe, Salesforce, Sephora, Amazon Web Services, and many others.

We talk with Veronica and Hannah about their journey to founding Oak Theory. We discuss the importance of including diverse perspectives, the role that female leadership plays in their organization, and how to be representative of voices in their research.

Ultimately they stress the importance of inviting, talking, learning, and caring, because without doing so we cannot create design that matters.

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Hannah Ryu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannahryu/

In today’s episode of Experience by Design, we welcome Jon Cohen, an expert in transformative experience design from G&A, an experience design company. We do a deep dive into the potential risks and implications of emerging technologies, particularly the Apple Vision Pro, and its impact on distraction and deployment in various settings, including museums and public spaces.

Jon shares his expertise on integrating augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR) to create immersive and awe-inspiring experiences, enhancing both educational programs and collective memories. The discussion extends to the evolution of video quality, the role of fashion trends, and the intricate balance of using technology to enhance, rather than distract from, meaningful experiences.

We’ll also hear poignant stories from Jon about gaming with his son and a transformative visit to Dachau, highlighting the power of immersive experiences in understanding cultural trauma. The conversation touches on significant historical events, such as Operation Overlord and the Vietnam War, and how reverence and reflection are incorporated into modern design.

We talk about how to approach the making of reverent spaces that not only prompt introspection, but also connection. While tech might be great for immersion, it can also lead to distraction. So the goal is to balance those features and think about when to use technology and when you need to leave it out. To be reverent is to be in the moment. This means the designer of reverent spaces needs to amplify the moment, heighten the sense of reverence, and move the person into the space of remembering.

Whether you’re interested in how today’s technology can preserve stories of the past or how it impacts our sense of identity and place, this episode promises a thoughtful exploration of the intersection between technology, design, and human experience.

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I’ve been involved in the creation and promotion of a number of athletic events, more specifically a cycling discipline called cyclocross. I’ve also participated in my fair share of events, from local road running races to Ironman and the Boston Marathon. I like to think that I have a decent understanding on the design of sporting events from the perspective of participants, promoter, and even spectator. When you are looking at these events from different perspectives, different elements become important. When designing them, it becomes important to take them all into account to create a successful experience.

It can be a challenge to capture what these events are all about, especially to those who have no direct understanding of them. What is the allure? What draws people in? Why do people put themselves through it all? Portraying more obscure sporting events to a broader audience is a balancing act between over explaining what is going on and leaving spaces to draw people in.

We can look at events like the Tour de France, professional hockey, Ironman, and other sports that don't have a broad audience, and as a result any coverage of it seems to try to overexplain itself.

One of the trends we see in sports media is the telling of stories of those who are competing. One of the things that draws us into sports is the struggle inherent in it. The struggle against ourselves, the struggle against others, the struggle against the elements. And it is not just about the struggle, but as ABC sports famously said “The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat.” We learn about these things through how they are portrayed in sports media.

On this episode of Experience by Design, we welcome Matt B. Davis of Obstacle Racing Media to the studio. I first heard of Matt on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast where he was talking about his documentary World’s Toughest Mudder. You’ll hear references to his appearance on Marc’s podcast in our conversation. As an endurance athlete, I recognized the struggle of communicating what it is we do and why it is we do it. So, I thought it would be fun to have him on and talk about the documentary he created, the culture of obstacle racing, and sports media for more fringe sports.

Matt’s desire for creative communication and entertainment led him to a variety of outlets. From comedy to blogging to podcasting and now videos, Matt talks about how he created a media presence for obstacle racing. For those who don’t know, which is probably most of you, obstacle racing are events like Tough Mudders or Spartan Race. What becomes really fascinating about these events is the strong sense of support and community that is created by all those involved. Competitors helping one another overcome literal obstacles because they are all in this together.

We talk about his journey from New England to the world of comedy. We explore his decision to create a content creation company for the emerging world of obstacle racing. We dig into how to create authentic content that doesn’t pander to the world of clickbait. He emphasizes that it is not just about the money, but the challenges of being a content creator who does justice to the community that is being portrayed.

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