In this episode, Brittlestar, Lisa B, Steve Boots, and guest, Fae Johnstone, discuss the current state of trans rights and trans issues in Canada. They explore the reasons behind the recent pushback against trans rights, including the use of trans issues as a distraction from other pressing issues. The conversation also touches on the role of social conservative factions within conservative parties and the tactics they use to roll back progress in diversity, equity, and inclusion. The hosts and guest emphasize the importance of engaging in dialogue, presenting facts, and focusing on the portion of the population that is open to conversation and education. The conversation explores the challenges and misconceptions surrounding the trans experience. It emphasizes the importance of acceptance, support, and understanding for trans individuals. The speakers discuss the need for parents to trust their children's decisions and the importance of providing access to gender-affirming care. They also address the politicization of trans issues and the objectification of trans bodies. The conversation concludes with a message of hope and the importance of fighting for a more inclusive and equal society. The conversation explores the obsession with trans women and the lack of backlash against trans men. It highlights the idiocy of focusing on trivial issues like bathroom usage and the need for more inclusive spaces. The discussion also touches on the importance of educating and informing people who may be uninformed or hesitant about transgender issues. The guests emphasize the need for dialogue, shared values, and holding politicians accountable for their ideas. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted improvised theme song.