We are back after a week off for the American holiday. This episode is a thoughtful discussion with a long time friend and cyclist John Shishilla. As John returned to cycling and better health after some tough years, and facing a new stage of his life, he refects and offers some great wisdom in an thoroughly enjoyable conversation. We recorded this episode in the late winter and it is a great contrast to the long and active summer days.

This week's episode of the "Fit and Healthy?/Healthy and Fit" podcast explores athletic identity, fitness and health with our guest Alyssa Leib. Alyssa shares her story of changes in how she thinks about fitness and health, particularly as a result of her recovery from an eating disorder. We discuss how sports can improve with regards to conversation and action regarding disordered eating. Host Jason Digman shares his personal day of thanks. We recorded this episode a few months ago but we're releasing it just after this important day in the life of the show's host. Thanks for listening.

We talk with Kurt Perham from Personal Best Multisport about how fitness and health overlap for him, in the larger world of endurance sports, and among those who might not call themselves athletes at all. Kurt shares how his athletic identity changed over the years as he's become and parent and then managing still not fully understood health issues. Hope you enjoy the episode and please share our podcast, thanks.