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This former MLB pitcher discovered that he has more meaning and impact behind the scenes of sports than when standing on the mound himself.

Adam Bernero works in the field of sport psychology and is currently a mental performance coach with the Seattle Mariners of Major League Baseball.

Adam started his pro career as a pitcher with the Detroit Tigers in 1999 and played in the major leagues until 2006. After leaving the big leagues due to injury, Adam was a fishing guide in Alaska for six summers among odd jobs and time for self-reflection. Now, he’s enjoying life more than ever helping other athletes fulfill their dreams.

Content note: from minute 29:20-30:55, Adam alludes to suicide ideation.

We talk about…

- Moving from college to the minor leagues to the MLB in a year

- How much Adam struggled after he had to quit pitching in the MLB due to injury

- From $2,000/day to $7.25/hour and having to scrape together odd jobs at 31

- Briefly considering what it would be like to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge before realizing he didn’t want to end his life

- How Adam began to find happiness after depression

- How Adam is “triage for the mind” for players on the Seattle Mariners

- Tools Adam shares with his athletes: mindset, focus, breathwork, and mind-body connection for nervous system regulation

- How Adam’s sweet spot is guiding athletes behind the scenes, rather than standing on the mound himself

- The trade-offs of being on the road for sports: inconsistency in relationships, the desire to have a dog, and how summers don’t exist

PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love these two:

How Dave Watson Navigates Relationships and Fatherhood as an Everest Mountain Guide

How Dancing Transformed Nika Kermani's Mental Health After Depression

👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie:

• Jeni on Instagram
• Angie on Instagram
• Angie’s website
• Angie on LinkedIn
• FTLO on Instagram

⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of:

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Shout-Outs:

• Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins
• Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.

Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/

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Emily Holland is a podcast consultant and strategist in Boulder, CO. In a previous life, Emily was a corporate girlie, working with Fortune 500 companies as an account manager. In 2021, she left the corporate world and set out on the path of self employment, working primarily with podcasters to help build, grow, and monetize their shows.

Outside of working with creatives in the outdoor industry, she loves being outside, climbing or trail running, preferably with a great female crew and some pups.

We talk about…

- The identity crisis of leaving a full time job

- Knowing that the conventional path wasn’t for her or her partner after trying to follow it

- Moving from the northeast to Colorado to be closer to outdoor passions

- How your income doesn’t equate to your worth (but that’s hard to not feel!)

- Openness with a partner about money and financial goals, including having money dates (cute!)

- Sobriety and the decision to stop drinking

- The “So you’re not fun anymore?” reaction from loved ones when you stop drinking

- How you can support people in your life who are considering sobriety

- How self-employment is a constant experiment with ups and downs

- Being your own boss through the wins and challenges

How to connect with Emily:

• Emily on LinkedIn
• Wild Poppy Creative Consulting

👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie:

• Jeni on Instagram
• Angie on Instagram
• Angie’s website
• Angie on LinkedIn
• FTLO on Instagram

⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of:

• On Apple Podcasts
• On Spotify

Shout-Outs:

• Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins
• Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.

Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/

For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com

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What if the day you faced a life-threatening sports injury was one of the best days of your life? And what does that mean for your loved ones?

Married couple Sensi Graves and Brandon Scheid are professional wind sport athletes. Sensi is a pro kiter, retreat host, founder of Sensi Graves Swim, and speaker. Brandon is a pro athlete and kite designer, as well as a survivor of a recent traumatic brain injury who’s been coming to terms with his injuries.

We talk about…

- Brandon’s November 2023 speed flying accident that could’ve killed him

- Falling at 60mph, crashing into a cliff, fracturing his pelvis and back, and experiencing two brain injuries on impact

- The lasting effects of one of the TBIs: judgment, criticism, anger, and lack of compassion, often towards Sensi

- Sensi's experience of hearing the news that her husband might not make it

- The early days of traumatic brain injury recovery: experiencing mania, frustration, and having no filter

- Flying FPV drones as a direct replacement for speed flying: getting adrenaline rushes and feeling like he’s flying

- Discovering 2 weeks after the accident that Sensi is pregnant

- What Brandon and Sensi would tell people who are afraid of experiencing a life-changing injury or illness

- How to support loved ones going through a life-changing injury or illness

- Learning to let yourself be held and supported by other people

- Trusting that despite all the challenges and hard work, everything is going to be okay

- The more you experience the hard parts of life, the more you can experience the great parts

PSST! If you like this episode, you’ll love these two:

How a Mountaineering Accident Taught Doug Beardsley to Live Life to the Fullest

How Pro Kitesurfer Jason Slezak Stopped Chasing Highs to Avoid His Past Trauma and Changed His Approach to Sports and Mental Health.

How to connect with Sensi and Brandon:

• Sensi Graves Swim
• Sensi on Instagram
• Brandon on Instagram
• Brandon’s FPV drone footage
• Sensi’s website

👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie:

• Jeni on Instagram
• Angie on Instagram
• Angie’s website
• Angie on LinkedIn
• FTLO on Instagram

⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of:

• On Apple Podcasts
• On Spotify

Shout-Outs:

• Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins
• Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.

Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/

For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com

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Sports mirror life. So how can we use sports to live our happiest, healthiest, bravest lives?

Bekah Rottenberg is the founder of Brave Endeavors, a professional mountain bike instructor, a NASM certified personal trainer, a Patagonia mountain bike Ambassador, and a former professional enduro racer. She retired from pro racing to focus on coaching and strength training through Brave Endeavors.

We talk about…

- Discovering confidence in all aspects of life through mountain biking

- Finding self-confidence through what her body could do, even when academics were challenging

- Breaking into pro mountain biking while balancing that with being a teacher

- Not wanting to go all-in on racing since it’d sacrifice other important parts of life

- Building confidence in youth girls as media poses unrealistic expectations

- Sexism and microaggressions in women’s sports, on a small scale and as an industry

- Changing her mind about transgender women in sports; it’s not just about testosterone

- Building a multifaceted business around a passion for the bike

- “The gap between expectations and reality is happiness”

- Building muscle is investing in your body’s retirement bank account; you don’t have forever to build strong bones

- Our minds can limit or push us, like with breaking the four minute mile

- There are many elements to identity, not just being a mountain biker

How to connect with Bekah:

• Brave Endeavors
• Bekah on Instagram

👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie:

• Jeni on Instagram
• Angie on Instagram
• Angie’s website
• Angie on LinkedIn
• FTLO on Instagram

⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of:

• On Apple Podcasts
• On Spotify

Shout-Outs:

• Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins
• Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.

Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/

For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com

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What do you get when you mix a business idea with an out-of-the-box lifestyle? Wildpreneurship.

Tamara Jacobi is the author of “Wildpreneurs” and founder of the Tailwind Jungle Lodge in San Pancho, Mexico. She's lived in the jungle on the Mexican Pacific for nearly 20 years.

We talk about…

- Blending personal and professional dreams to build an unconventional business that involves moving internationally twice a year

- Living and operating a business in a touristed area and leaving an impact on the community

- Writing a business plan in college in Vermont, then moving to the jungle at 21 to build it

- Being mindful of a "Then what?" lifestyle trap, being satisfied with "enough," and learning to say no

- Choosing a small scale business model with no desire to expand

- Following passion first; taking a financially nonviable idea and making it work over time

- Raising children and working with a partner while moving seasonally

- Hosting many visitors, but making sure they leave inspired to protect the natural world

- The process to bring her book to life (through a manuscript, baby, and pandemic to now)

- Creating space and flexibility through shifting roles in business with her husband

How to connect with Tamara:

• Wildpreneurs book

• Tailwind Jungle Lodge

• Thermal

👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie:

• Jeni on Instagram

• Angie on Instagram

• Angie’s website

• Angie on LinkedIn

• FTLO on Instagram

⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of:

• On Apple Podcasts

• On Spotify

Shout-Outs:

• Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins

• Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.

Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/

For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com

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Raising tiny humans is, for many people, the ultimate life trade-off. What happens when you’re a professional athlete, traveling the world and pushing your body, who then finds out you’re pregnant– with twins?!

Majka Burhardt (she/her) is a professional climber, social entrepreneur, author, filmmaker, mother of twins and the Founder and Executive Director of Legado, an international organization that supports indigenous communities to build healthy communities and landscapes. Majka wrote the book “More: Life on the Edge of Adventure and Motherhood,” a collection of notes, letters, and messages to her twins from pregnancy through toddlerhood.

We talk about…

- The parallels of being an athlete and pregnancy: seeing what our bodies can do, seeking new skills, embracing challenges

- How motherhood affected Majka’s ice climbing skills: more gratitude and efficiency, less extreme overhanging moves

- Wanting to be a high level athlete AND there for her kids, and how she juggles that duality

- Body image as a mom and athlete, like gaining 70 lbs. in pregnancy after having a six pack

- Communicating with your co-parent when things really suck (and not "I'll just handle it myself")

- Creating a family culture of loving time outdoors

- Teaching kids to be resilient, rather than just safe, since they'll encounter risks every day

- Life is messier than anyone wants to admit

- The urge to do it all and do it all well

- Becoming passionate about parenting is badass

How to connect with Majka:

• Majka’s website: https://www.majkaburhardt.com/
• Majka on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/majkaburhardt/
• Read “More: Life on the Edge of Adventure and Motherhood”: https://www.majkaburhardt.com/more/

👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie:

• https://www.instagram.com/angvswild

• https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge

• https://www.itsangiemarie.com/

• https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/

⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of:

• On Apple Podcasts

• On Spotify

Shout-Outs:

• Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins

• Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.

Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/

For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com

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Most people see lichens as the weird stuff that grows on rock. But did you know their more glamorous role as “innovations arising from collaboration”?!

Dr. Hannah Prather (she/her) is a NSF Postdoctoral Research Fellow and Visiting Assistant Professor of Biology whose research has focused on the intricate relationship among lichens, bryophytes, and host trees. Her work’s taken place around the globe– even Antarctica, where she co-led a project examining warming effects on polar bryophyte communities.

We talk about…

- Starting grad school at 30 and taking almost 7 years to get her PhD

- Traveling for science, including spending months in Antarctica for grad school

- Using slingshots and modified crossbows to get into tree canopies for research

- Sexism from peers once you have a leadership role

- Identity as a scientist, especially when you have skills people deem "soft skills" (boooo)

- Working with imposter syndrome, the pressure for academic excellence and struggling with perfectionism

- Feeling like you’ll have kids, then when it doesn’t line up

- Moving from a student role to a peer role, and starting professorship

- Scientists need empathy and relationship building skills, too

- What are lichens anyway?! Prepare to be mind-blown.

How to connect with Hannah:

• Hannah’s postdoctoral research (video included): https://www.pdx.edu/digital-city/discovery-trees

👋How to connect with Jeni and Angie:

• https://www.instagram.com/angvswild

• https://www.instagram.com/jenistembridge

• https://www.itsangiemarie.com/

• https://linkedin.com/in/angie-marie/

 ⭐Please rate and review For The Love Of:

• On Apple Podcasts

• On Spotify

Shout-Outs:

• Music: The Kind of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins

• Thank you to The Ruins, the best wedding venue in Oregon, for supporting the show.

Follow FTLO on IG: https://www.instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast/

For full show notes and more: https://fortheloveofpod.com

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