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  • Episode 141 - Van Gogh, and Also Van Goghne
    Mar 8 2026

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    aaaAAAaaa opens with peak chaotic-table energy: ASMR jokes, factory-noise soundscape pitching, and the general vibe of “we are spiritually unwell but comedically hydrated.” The episode’s drink is the Gin Anthonic, a gin-and-tonic riff that swaps tonic for champagne (Saturday-morning lawlessness), plus muddled peach and whatever sweetener is on hand, built to match the Anthon-manuscript theme without requiring anyone to pretend they’re classy.

    Scriptures: [00:25:49]

    Moroni tackles JSH 1:43 to the end, framing it as Joseph’s “most intense night of insomnia in American religious history,” with Moroni doing the “per my last revelation” bit as the angel returns again and again like a divine auto-reply. He spotlights the story beats: repeated nighttime visits, Joseph collapsing from exhaustion, the annual “come back in one year” plate-tease, and then the 1827 handoff where the plates supposedly become the hottest stolen-object in upstate New York despite also allegedly weighing an absurd amount.

    Church Teachings: [00:46:11]

    Abish digs into what the modern church tries to do with the Charles Anthon story: it becomes a tidy faith-parable about Isaiah 29 (“the learned man can’t read a sealed book”), with Anthon cast as the learned man, Joseph as the humble unlearned underdog, and the plates as prophecy fulfillment. The manual-friendly takeaway is basically: scholarship can’t birth scripture, faith does; and also please stop asking why Joseph needed academic validation if God already told him everything.

    History: [01:04:59]

    Abigail takes the Anthon-manuscript thread and yanks it straight into the 1980s with Mark Hofmann, pitching him as the most Joseph-Smith-compatible criminal imaginable: a document dealer who understood exactly what collectors and the church wanted to be true, and built a business selling “missing link” artifacts that felt emotionally consequential. She walks through his methods at a high level (mixing authentic material with altered and forged items, using period materials, artificial aging, and building credibility through plausibility) and then lands on the irony that discernment somehow never showed up to work.

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    2 h y 8 m
  • Episode 140 - Cornhole With Satan
    Mar 1 2026

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    Moroni rolled in with “Brightness Above the Sun”, a bubbly pink-lemonade situation spiked with “a shot and a half” (measured emotionally, not metrically), topped with Sprite, and generally engineered to be impossible to mess up unless you actively hate joy.
    The vibe was: Olympics chatter, political despair snacks (State of the Union avoidance, assorted internet clips), and then a hard pivot into “we finished the PoGP… and Joseph still has more content to punish us with,” as you officially marched into Joseph Smith’s self-published history.
    Pop culture tangents did what they do: figure skating awe, a brief tour through hot celebrities and chaos, and the recurring theme that nobody in this economy has the emotional bandwidth for the world, but everyone can still be loyal to lemonade + bubbles.

    Scriptures: [00:20:38]
    Abish took the first half of JS-H 1:1–42 and basically ran a “Joseph Smith, but with an editor” intervention: reading the long, exhausting verses, then immediately translating them into what Joseph could have said if he weren’t allergic to brevity.
    The segment hit the big beats (Joseph setting the record straight, the church-fight chaos, the grove, the “I was gagged by darkness” moment, persecution-as-proof, and then Moroni showing up like an overcaffeinated Bible audiobook) with constant side-eye at how Joseph somehow remembers angel ankles and bosom details but can’t be bothered to write down “many other passages.”
    The running joke was that Joseph writes like a high schooler padding a word count, except the grade is “new religion” and the penalty for failure is that your whole extended family still can’t buy wine at Trader Joe’s.

    Church Teachings: [00:39:23]
    aaaAAAaaa framed JS-H 1:1–42 as an origin story that quietly installs an “epistemic immune system,” then introduced the distinction between immunizing strategies (external, ad hoc protective arguments) and epistemic defense mechanisms (internal, structural features that make the belief system self-sealing).
    From there, the segment read straight through the pattern: Joseph pre-labeling critics as malicious, controversy being treated as proof, and controlled access to evidence, then showing how later Church messaging echoes the same posture with “don’t study through defectors” and “ignore anti material.”
    Then you zoomed out to compare the same mechanisms in other high-control environments: disconfirmation that strengthens commitment, “don’t listen to antagonists,” coercive inner-circle leverage, and the “apostate material” contamination framing, with the hosts interjecting the obvious: if the institution had nothing to fear, it wouldn’t need a whole toolkit devoted to information quarantine.

    History: [01:01:23]
    Abigail took the “multiple First Visions” rabbit hole and just kept digging until the tunnel reached the Earth’s core: laying out that historians compare at least nine major accounts, split between Joseph’s own later tellings and secondhand contemporary reports, and then walking through how the story shifts depending on when it’s told and who it’s told to. The thread running through it was myth-making: early versions reading more like personal religious crisis, later versions evolving into a polished institutional origin narrative built to justify authorit

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  • Episode 139 - The Apologyptologists
    Feb 22 2026

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    Abish and Abigail roll in already half-dead from a same-day work raid on Rexburg (Potato BYU), plus the usual modern plagues: a Tesla pothole incident that turns into “surprise, you’re buying four tires,” a Unisom gamble, and a toddler on a sacred quest for the One Blanket That Was In The Car The Whole Time. Drink-wise, Abish delivers the Highly Flavored. It’s Trader Joe’s seasonal sparkling strawberry soda + TJ’s fresh limeade, spiked with a casual ounce-ish of Malibu and an ounce-ish of vanilla vodka, poured over ice and topped for a cute layered look that does not resemble hot dog water (growth). Pop culture detours include rage-fantasies about accountability, the deeply cursed optics of shirtless powerful men, and the joyful chaos of watching survival content where the true villain is always some small, relentless weasel with an agenda.

    Scriptures: [00:32:44]

    aaaAAAaaa shows up with an exmo power tool: a normalized diff. They explain how they pulled Matthew 24 (KJV) and Joseph Smith—Matthew into a repo, lined the passages up, and used a visual diff (plus AI help) to get painfully granular about what’s “Matthew” and what’s “Joe doing jazz hands over Matthew’s chord chart.” The segment frames the KJV as a single, interleaved Olivet Discourse, while Joseph Smith—Matthew is portrayed as a reshuffle-and-expand job that tries to separate the “Jerusalem gets wrecked” timeline from the “Second Coming” timeline, mainly by adding clarifiers, moving blocks around, and sprinkling covenant-y emphasis like it’s garlic powder.

    Church Teachings: [00:57:39]

    Moroni tackles the “why is this random chunk even here?” question: why would Joseph Smith toss an apocalyptic rewrite of Matthew 24 into the Pearl of Great Price like an unrelated DLC? The segment argues it feels oddly placed narratively, but starts making more sense when you treat early Mormonism as aggressively end-times-coded: not “one day Jesus will return,” but “we are literally living in the countdown timer era.” From that angle, Matthew 24 wasn’t obscure to early Saints, it was mission-critical content.

    History: [01:09:13]

    Abigail returns triumphantly to Egypt Corner, essentially admitting this is a continuation of last week’s “wait, WHAT” Wikipedia spiral. She digs deeper into the mummy-and-papyri economy around Michael Chandler’s mummy-selling tour (a sentence that should not exist, and yet), including how many mummies were in circulation and how bizarrely bad people were at tracking where the bodies and papyri ended up. The tone stays fixed on the absurdity that “anyone can buy a mummy” was just… a normal thing for a while, and on how that context feeds directly into Joseph’s confident scripture-production hustle.

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    1 h y 58 m
  • Episode 138 - Not To Beat a Dead Hôr
    Feb 15 2026

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    The hosts kick off this episode with their signature chaotic energy, mixing up a Bailey's-heavy cocktail called "Facsimile No Printer" (and a cereal-infused chocolate milk mocktail for their pregnant co-host) before diving into an extensive pop culture roundup. From gushing over Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime show and Lady Gaga's timeless talent, to mourning the losses of Catherine O'Hara and James Van Der Beek, the conversation winds through Bridgerton's new season, the horrors of the Epstein files, the absurdity of competitive daycare Valentine's cards, and the glory of "the fuck box" — an autocorrect mishap for the ages. One host also celebrates five weeks on Prozac and feeling hope again, while another attempts a bold cannabis hiatus to wrangle their ADHD.

    Scriptures: [00:39:32]
    The episode's main course is a deep dive into the three facsimiles found in the Book of Abraham. The hosts break down what Joseph Smith claimed each facsimile depicted — Abraham's sacrifice, a cosmic map of Kolob and the priesthood, and Abraham teaching astronomy on Pharaoh's throne — versus what Egyptologists have conclusively identified them as: standard Egyptian funerary texts depicting Osiris, Anubis, Isis, and scenes from the Book of Breathing. They highlight the comedic tragedy of Smith filling in missing pieces of damaged papyrus with his own crude drawings, and the fact that the Rosetta Stone was already being decoded around the same time Smith was making his "translations."

    Church Teachings: [01:00:24]
    The church's modern response gets a thorough skewering, from the Gospel Topics essay that essentially redefines "translation" to mean divine inspiration rather than actual linguistic work, to Institute manuals that teach the facsimiles as proof of priesthood authority while carefully avoiding any mention of their Egyptian origins. The hosts also explore the "catalyst theory" — the church's fallback position that the papyri merely *inspired* Joseph Smith — and note how foundational Book of Abraham concepts like Kolob and temple ceremonies are to Mormon theology despite being built on thoroughly debunked source material.

    History: [01:17:00]
    The episode wraps with a fascinating historical tour of Ptolemaic Egypt, exploring how Greek and Egyptian cultures blended during the era when the Book of Breathing for Hor — the actual document Smith "translated" — was produced. Highlights include the revelation that Books of Breathing were essentially mass-produced funerary Mad Libs with blank spaces for names, the state-engineered creation of the hybrid god Serapis, and the fact that Cleopatra VII was ethnically Greek. The hosts announce a special activity for listeners: a template to draw their own version of the missing pieces of the facsimiles, Joey Smith style.

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    2 h y 4 m
  • Episode 137 - The Male Loneliness Epidemic in Eden
    Feb 8 2026

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    Moroni kicked things off with a warm, spicy beverage that matched the theological temperature of the episode: the Naked and Not Ashamed. This hot cocktail combined spiced rum, Porter’s fire whiskey (of course), and dusty apple cider, garnished with cinnamon and a side of celestial sass. It was named for the Adam-and-Eve-just-vibing moment at the end of Abraham 5—before things went full snake oil. The intro spiraled into classic chaos: pickled pico de gallo revelations, impromptu soup grief counseling, a tribute to Catherine O’Hara, and a surprisingly intense breakdown of the man cold-industrial complex.

    Scriptures: [00:33:01]

    Claudia dove into Abraham 5 with enough sarcasm to reanimate Joseph’s skull. The segment opened with a well-earned sigh over the Gods’ celestial group project, where “counseled among themselves” is repeated like someone got stuck in a Joseph Smith Mad Lib. Claudia highlighted the total narrative collapse of time: are we planning creation, doing it, recapping it, or just gossiping about it in the break room? Hard to say. The naming of animals got its due as Adam’s big weed-fueled improv bit—naming a cow “Trevor” and a tree “Steve Kevin” while naked and doing the windmill. She also took aim at the absurdity of Adam naming every creature (with gummy-enhanced efficiency, obviously), and the petty divine HR meeting that decided man was too sad alone to function. The rib moment was framed as celestial Build-a-Bear surgery—with a side of CPR through the nostrils. A+ biblical horror comedy.

    Church Teachings: [00:58:05]

    aaaAAAaaa tackled the apologetics of Adam’s rib like a scalpel to celestial bone structure. The segment traced how modern LDS leaders (Kimball, Holland, Nelson, etc.) have backtracked the rib narrative into pure symbolism—emphasizing equality, “side-by-side partnership,” and definitely-not-anatomically-incorrect metaphors. She also dug into the gross little detour some 19th-century LDS thinkers took, suggesting Eve was a literal clone made from Adam’s rib marrow (DNA science, but make it horny and spiritually sanctioned masturbation). Then came the Jewish takes, where it turns out “rib” probably meant “side” all along and one Talmudic reading says God just split Adam in half like a cosmic starfish. aaaAAAaaa mourned the missed opportunity of Joseph Smith not adapting the apocrypha (where Lilith and other batshit options live), and eviscerated the cowardice of churches who now retroactively label metaphors only once they’re impossible to defend. Final takeaway: it’s always a metaphor—until it’s not, and then it was a metaphor all along.

    History: [01:17:48]

    Abigail delivered a full scorched-earth roast of Orson Scott Card and his aggressively Mormon sci-fi empire. She started with a childhood memory of being way too far into The Memory of Earth before realizing “Nafai” was just Nephi in space drag. Then she walked through the entire Homecoming Saga (aka the Book of Mormon with names run through a Dune generator) including Wetchik (Lehi), Ellemak and Mebaqe (Layman and Lemuel), Zdoreb (Zoram), and the brass-ball Liahona analog. The plot is beat-for-beat BOM, but in space: fleeing Jerusalem/Basilica, building a spaceship/boat, sibling drama, desert wandering, and obedience-as-endgame. She even covered Card’s Tales of Alvin Maker series

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    1 h y 58 m
  • Episode 136 - James-McAvoy-God Theory
    Feb 1 2026

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    Abish kicks things off with a cocktail that has absolutely nothing to do with the episode and everything to do with vibes: the "Pickligamy". Equal parts vodka, pickle juice, and lemonade, garnished with a pickle spear, it exists purely because the word sounded funny and honestly? That’s enough. The drink inspires immediate polarization—pickle lovers rejoice, pickle skeptics recoil—and the segment spirals delightfully into pregnancy cravings, candy unboxings, Minneapolis chaos, and the emotional whiplash of trying to stay informed while the world is actively on fire. It’s chaotic, comforting, and extremely on brand.

    Scriptures: [00:29:53]

    aaaAAAaaa takes on Abraham 4, aka Genesis 1 but Joseph Smith is freestyling from memory. The segment walks through Abraham 4 beat by beat, highlighting how closely it mirrors Genesis structurally while managing to be longer, clumsier, and way more repetitive. The plural “Gods” are introduced immediately and then aggressively re-introduced over and over again, without ever being explained or allowed to actually do anything interesting.

    Church Teachings: [00:50:01]

    Moroni dives into the many Mormon versions of the creation story, moving beyond scripture into temple theology. He lays out the five major creation accounts that matter in LDS thought: Genesis, Moses, Abraham, and multiple versions of the temple endowment—including the pre-2023 version and the revised post-2023 changes. The segment meticulously tracks how the endowment’s creation narrative originally didn’t line up with any of the scriptural versions, then was quietly edited to match them more closely.

    History: [01:12:43]

    Abigail closes the episode with “Mormons in Space,” an absolutely unhinged deep dive into Battlestar Galactica (1978) and its creator, Glen A. Larson. What starts as a fun pop-culture tangent turns into a full-blown Mormon theology exposé as Abigail traces Larson’s LDS background, his career trajectory from 1950s boy band heartthrob to TV megacreator, and how Battlestar Galactica becomes Mormon cosmology with lasers.

    From the Quorum of the Twelve in space, to Kolob-adjacent planets, Egyptian aesthetics, literal devil figures named Lucifer and Iblis, resurrection arcs, sealing language, and angelic beings made of light, the show is revealed to be less “Star Wars knockoff” and more “temple endowment with spaceships.” Abigail walks through key episodes—especially War of the Gods—to show just how explicitly Mormon the narrative becomes, culminating in a celestial destiny for humanity and a literal search for Earth. The segment lands on a comparison between the incoherent, patriarchal original series and the far superior 2004 reboot, proving once again that Mormon ideas are everywhere… even when they really shouldn’t be.

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    2 h y 20 m
  • Episode 135 - Cash Me Ousside, God
    Jan 25 2026

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    aaaAAAaaa opens the episode in classic Great & Spacious chaos, immediately acknowledging that Joseph Smith’s Abrahamic space fanfic has once again forced a cocktail concept into existence. This week’s drink, "Gnolaum Kokaubeam", is a coffee cocktail named after the aggressively fake cosmic vocabulary Joseph introduces in Abraham 3—specifically the “eternal” and “star/light” language that somehow sounds like it belongs on a Starbucks menu.

    The segment veers delightfully into tangents about caffeine, preparation-as-a-lifestyle, accidental recordings, earthquakes, and the inevitability of filling silence with words. The vibe is caffeinated, slightly unhinged, and perfectly aligned with a chapter where God insists—repeatedly and ungrammatically—that He is more intelligent than everyone else.

    Scriptures: [00:21:17]

    Moroni walks through Abraham 3, a chapter that functions less like scripture and more like a seventh-grade essay written by a farm school dropout trying very hard to sound cosmically important. Abraham is shown visions of stars, planets, and governing bodies, culminating in the introduction of Kolob—the star nearest to God’s throne—and a hierarchy where everything exists on a scale of “lesser” and “greater,” repeated until meaning collapses under its own weight.

    The discussion highlights how the chapter blends speculative astronomy, time dilation (“one day unto the Lord”), and premortal hierarchy, all while God declares Himself “more intelligent than they all” in some of the most awkward divine dialogue in scripture. Moroni emphasizes how this chapter quietly introduces foreordination, noble and great ones, and the scaffolding for Mormon premortal elitism, all wrapped in language that feels far more 19th century than ancient.

    Church Teachings: 00:39:14

    Claudia breaks down what the LDS Church teaches based on Abraham 3, focusing on foreordination, premortal existence, and the War in Heaven. The segment explores how members are taught that certain spirits were chosen before birth for leadership roles—prophets, rulers, and “choice” individuals—while still maintaining the convenient loophole that foreordination isn’t a guarantee, just a cosmic head start.

    The conversation unpacks how these teachings historically justified hierarchy, patriarchy, and racism, including older doctrines that framed physical, racial, or national “limitations” as evidence of lesser premortal valiance. Claudia connects these ideas to Mormon culture’s obsession with being the “chosen generation,” noting how every generation somehow inherits that same title, and how the logic of Abraham 3 continues to underpin modern LDS authority structures despite decades of quiet doctrinal cleanup.

    History: 00:59:24

    Abigail closes the episode with a deep dive into cosmology itself—what it is, why every human society develops one, and how cosmologies function less as explanations of the universe and more as justifications for who gets to be in charge. Drawing on comparative mythology and religious studies, she outlines common cosmological frameworks across cultures and shows how Mormon cosmology fits neatly into patterns of hierarchy, divine craftsmanship, and procreative authority rather than ancient Hebrew thought.

    She situates Abraham 3 squarely in its 19th-century contex

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    1 h y 59 m
  • Episode 134 - An Important Part of This Balanced Bullshit
    Jan 18 2026

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    Moroni opens the episode with a mercifully refreshing cocktail, the Cranberry Vodka Spritz-Ur, a deliciously refreshing drink named for the land of Ur and the general need for something light before wading into Abrahamic theology. Built around vodka, cranberry juice, citrus, and a fizzy topper, the drink does what it needs to do: keeps spirits up while the conversation immediately detours into the emotional exhaustion of existing in 2026. The intro swings between gallows humor, pop-culture side quests, and the general sense that everything is on fire, but at least the drink slaps. Consensus is reached quickly: this is one of the better cocktails in recent memory, which is good, because the rest of the episode is… a lot.


    Scriptures: [00:32:29]

    Abish walks everyone through Abraham 2, covering Abraham’s divine relocation order, the expansion of the covenant, and the promise that his name, seed, and priesthood authority will somehow bless literally everyone. The chapter’s emphasis on separation from corrupt societies, obedience without immediate payoff, and covenantal chosenness sets the stage for everything that follows. Abraham is framed as special, chosen, and obedient long before there is any visible success, establishing a template where faithfulness matters more than outcomes. The segment highlights how genealogical language and priesthood authority are already doing a lot of heavy lifting here, even before Joseph Smith gets fully weird with it later.


    Church Teachings: [00:49:53]

    aaaAAAaaa attempts to explain the Abrahamic Covenant using an official BYU Religious Studies Center article, quickly discovering that it is aggressively long, deeply repetitive, and determined to explain the same point twelve times in slightly different arrangements of words. After valiantly reading for longer than anyone deserved, he pivots to a summarized version to preserve the will to live of the other hosts. The segment reframes Abraham 2 as institutional theology rather than narrative scripture, showing how the covenant is used to justify chosen-ness, obedience without reward, and suffering as a feature rather than a bug. The takeaway is clear: the covenant isn’t just a promise, it’s an operating system—one that explains why being chosen mostly means being used.


    History: [01:07:16]

    Abigail closes things out by focusing on Abraham’s “seed,” and by seed she very much means seed, unpacking just how biologically, genealogically, and obsessively reproductive this section of scripture really is. The segment leans into how lineage becomes theology, how fertility becomes destiny, and how the covenant quietly turns into a divine breeding program with eternal consequences. Along the way, she connects this fixation to broader ancient and modern anxieties about inheritance, legitimacy, and power, all while keeping the tone appropriately unhinged. If nothing else, listeners leave with a renewed appreciation for just how horny theology can get when it runs out of better metaphors.

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    1 h y 52 m