Animal Ethicist and Vegan Robert C. Jones joins Ben O'Brien for a friendly debate on the animal rights movement and what it means for our society. We'll tackle these topics in eight chapters to find the answer to what the future holds for these two distinct ideologies.

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In the first episode, Ben O'Brien and Robert C. Jones introduce themselves, explain how the hell we got here, and give Robert the floor to help us define the Animal Rights Movement.

This time Ben takes over the podcast to give a broad overview of the history of the modern hunter, the North American Model of Conservation, and wildlife management in America. Ben and Robert discuss some of the most impactful conservation figures of the last 150 years.

One of the best things about our Nation is that we all agree that we value wild animals. We want them here. But how do we achieve cohabitation and the ugly truths that it forces upon us? Ben and Robert begin the deep dive on how our values shape the worldview of both the vegan and the hunter.

Is killing an animal murder? Is animal agriculture akin to slavery? These are some of the moral questions Robert wants us to consider.

How do they interact with the world around them? Ben and Robert talk through animal cognition and how it might effect the hunter's perception of his or her quarry.

Ben and Robert dig deep on our biological mandate to consume the world around us and the impact on our lives.

Ben and Robert dive further into how our consumption rules our everyday lives.