What makes a 'special' edition? Talking for almost an hour about having babies or not having babies? Maybe! There are big changes on the horizon for ITSBUP (except we're not pivoting to a parenting podcast), after a long old road to get here! If you're thinking "yuck, babies, where's that sweet sweet ITSBUP content I've come to enjoy?", well then listen to like, the first twenty minutes of this episode, or stick around until the next episode when things go back to totally normal!

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IN THIS EPISODE:

01:00 Tom is trying to keep abreast of Apple
03:00 Ben doesn't have covid
08:00 Noclip documentaries are pretty amazing
16:40 Ben's recruiting new team members
20:00 Kid delays but not dismays
23:00 Girls not being told what they need to be told and you know what, women's healthcare in general
31:00 Where's that test tube?
44:00 Dealing with loss
51:30 Parent Podcast Pivot
56:00 Dat DINK life

Some things we talk about in this episode:

iPad Mini Looks AMAZING (Tom looks less-so): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0I9rTbUru8
Noclip Videogame Documentaries: https://www.youtube.com/c/NoclipVideo
Taking Charge Of Your Fertility: https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Taking-Charge-Your-Fertility-Reproductive/dp/0091887585
MIST: https://twitter.com/MISTWorkshops