In this Predictable B2B Success Podcast episode, host Vinay Koshy speaks with Julie Brown, VP of Industry and Customer Experience at Johnson Controls. Julie shares insights from her 24 years of experience in general management, product development, and marketing across various industries.

The discussion delves into strategies for achieving profitable revenue growth in the B2B sector, focusing on customer needs, accurate data, and the importance of aligning business operations with value disciplines. Julie also highlights the challenges of traditional market segmentation, the role of leadership in fostering a customer-centric culture, and the significance of storytelling in communicating business value.

Some areas we explore in this episode include:

• Innovation Metaphor: Julie Brown's metaphor of starting a fire in the rain to describe the innovation process, emphasizing the need for nurturing, patience, and understanding.
• Impact of B2B Marketing: The role of B2B marketing in driving organic double-digit growth for businesses.
• Leadership and Culture: The importance of leadership in creating a culture of open communication, learning from mistakes, and allowing for experimentation within organizations.
• Business Language for Marketers: The necessity for marketers to communicate in the language of business, focusing on profitability, revenue, and ROI to gain credibility.
• Customer-Centric Approach: The significance of being market-focused and customer-centric, as learned from Julie Brown's experience at Alcoa.
• Market Segmentation: Challenges with traditional market segmentation practices and the suggestion to segment markets based on customer needs rather than firmographics.
• Uncovering Customer Needs: Approaches like jobs to be done, customer journey mapping, and ethnography to understand the "why" behind customer behavior.
• Value Disciplines: Differentiating businesses through value disciplines such as price, operational excellence, and customer intimacy, and how understanding customer needs can guide these strategies.
• Humility and Course Correction: The importance of having good data, the humility to admit mistakes, and the courage to embrace change for quicker course correction and transformation.
• Explaining Marketing Investments: The challenge of explaining marketing investments to CEOs and CFOs, emphasizing the need for marketers to understand financial statements and use storytelling to make data relatable and understandable.
• And much, much more...