The Fallout with The Joe Budden Podcast & Starting New Rory and Mal #newrorynmal #joebudden #joebuddenpodcast In this revealing interview, Mal, a former co-host of the Joe Budden Podcast, opens up about the tensions and business disputes that led to his and Rory's departure from the show, despite their significant contributions to its success. Mal expresses disappointment and a sense of betrayal by his close friend Joe Budden, whom he believes let ego and unwillingness to share financial success fairly lead to their fallout. Despite having a "percentage agreement" contract, Mal and Rory felt underpaid and denied access to accounting details. "It's ego. But even in the midst of that, we weren't tripping because we had this contract in place...whatever money comes in, this is the percentage that I get. This is the percentage that he gets." Attempts to resolve issues through meetings and discussions about bringing in an accountant failed. The Final Moments Mal recounts the final moments: "For me, it was done there...Rory begged me to have a meeting...he agreed. He said, yeah, we're gonna get the accountant...Let's all go to our corners, and we're gonna get everything right, and then we'll come back and...reconvene." However, Joe brought in new co-hosts shortly after, which Mal saw as a "slap in the face." 0:00 - Introduction: Ownership, Branding, and Business in Podcasting 0:09 - Rory's Contract Breach and Firing 0:55 - Misconceptions and Legal Issues 1:09 - Maul's Character and Business Practices 1:34 - Address to Maul and Internal Issues 2:01 - Public Perception and Internal Struggles 2:31 - Contractual Realizations 3:04 - Salary Disputes and Transparency 3:22 - Network Began During Their Tenure 3:38 - Shoutout to Loon and Sponsorship 4:03 - Prize Picks Sponsorship 4:26 - Introduction of Mal as Guest 5:01 - New Rory and mal Tour and Success 5:46 - Business Side of Podcast and Branding 5:52 - Departure from the Joe Budden Podcast: Mal’s Side of the Story 7:24 - Creative Collaboration with Rory 8:09 - Unique Approach to Podcast Skits 9:16 -The Joe Budden Podcast Break Up 10:05 - Maul's Will to Help and Support 11:05 - Truth and Character Attacks 11:11 - Principles Over Money: Integrity in Relationships 12:26 - Financial Disputes and Lessons Learned 12:52 - Learning to Fish and Independence 13:27 - Joe Budden's Misplaced Leverage 16:10 - Clarifying the Past: Departure Based on Principles 16:16 - "Parks Know's" Mal says Parks is in to deep to disagree with Joe Budden 20:10 - The Business of Podcasting: Control and Branding 21:21 - What was Mal Contribution to The Joe Budden Podcast 21:56 - Joe Budden's Emotional Reactions To Employee Meeting 24:04 - The Rise and Fall of the Joe Budden Podcast 27:14 - Joe Budden's Misplaced Leverage 29:11 - No Ill Feelings, Just Truth: Financial Discrepancies 31:12 - Joe Budden's Discomfort with Money Splits he agreed to 31:30 - The Patreon Announcement Incident: Unplanned Moves 37:14 - Joe Budden Spotify Rants, Rewinding the Tapes: Understanding Past Episodes 40:51 - Network and Unpaid Work: Joe’s YouTube Channel 45:51 - Joe Budden Refused To Pay For Video For Podcast Payment: Monetized Content Issues 49:05 - Why Not Start Their Own Podcast While at JBP ?: Focus on Due Payments 52:40 - Why Mal Sided With Rory Instead On Joe Budden 55:17 - Ish Knows! -Lessons Learned: Business and Friendship Insights 59:53 - Future and Growth of the New Show: Mal and Rory’s Success 1:04:34 - The Nature of Friendship: Money’s Impact 1:07:20 - Joe Budden 's Current Show and Cast Members: Acknowledging History 1:11:03 - Importance of Real Friendship: Supporting Each Other 1:14:12 - Kanye West’s Recent Actions: Broader Implications

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"Welcome to a powerful and unmissable episode of the ‘It’s Up There Podcast’! Today, we have Dr. Umar Johnson in what is arguably his most intense interview ever. Known for his passionate and controversial views, Dr. Umar delves deep into the topics that matter most to him and the community. In this episode, we cover: Dr. Umar Johnson’s unfiltered thoughts on the state of education for African Americans. His views on systemic racism and the steps needed to combat it. The impact of cultural and economic empowerment on the Black community. Dr. Umar’s plans and vision for the future, including his ongoing projects and initiatives. Join us for a riveting conversation that challenges the status quo and provokes thought. Don’t miss out on Dr. Umar Johnson’s fiery insights and powerful commentary. 🌟 Enjoying our content? Hit the LIKE button, SUBSCRIBE for more impactful interviews, and ring the BELL to stay updated with our latest episodes. 💬 We want to hear your thoughts! COMMENT BELOW: What do you think about Dr. Umar Johnson’s views? How can we collectively work towards the goals he discusses? 🔗 For the FULL EPISODE, visit our YouTube channel: ‘It’s Up There Podcast’. Join our community discussions on Discord: https://discord.gg/4XYtcc8Q 🔥 Hashtags: #DrUmarJohnson #ItsUpTherePodcast #Education #Racism #BlackEmpowerment #IntenseInterview 0:00 - Introduction: The Debt Trap in Africa 0:29 - The Unique Inhumanity of African Slavery 1:33 - Civil Rights Bill and Economic Exploitation 2:32 - Introduction of Dr. Umar Johnson 2:54 - Dr. Umar's Visit to Nashville 4:10 - Frederick Douglass Marcus Garvey Academy Project 5:00 - Prioritizing the School Buildings 6:10 - Plans for the Female Academy 7:08 - Importance of Educating Black Boys 8:30 - State Recognition and Approval Process for the School 9:55 - Differences in State Education Regulations 11:20 - Real Estate Racism and Divine Intervention 13:10 - Political and Community Challenges 15:07 - Historical Context of Black Leadership and Movements 17:20 - Infighting and Character Assassination 19:10 - The Role of YouTube and Social Media 21:06 - Ego and Division in Black Leadership 22:47 - The Importance of Sincerer Intentions 23:11 - School Recognition and Building Rehabilitation 24:45 - Focus on the Marcus Garvey Building 25:59 - Vision for the Frederick Douglass Building 27:15 - Marketing the School as a Conference Center 28:26 - Real Estate Racism and Legal Recourse 29:15 - Core Curriculum of FDMG Academy 30:20 - Agricultural and Nutritional Education 31:10 - Political and Military Education 32:30 - Historical Context of African Debt 33:11 - The Debt Trap and Economic Sabotage 34:47 - Structural Adjustment Programs 36:43 - Population Control and Birth Control Policies 38:25 - The Role of Homosexuality in Population Control 39:41 - Historical Periods of African American Struggle 41:19 - The Fight for Humanity and Freedom 42:09 - The Impact of Desegregation 43:23 - Economic Domination and Civil Rights Bill 45:36 - Assassination of Dr. King and Its Aftermath 47:06 - The Role of Independent Black Businesses 48:18 - Economic Castration and the War on Black Men 49:51 - The Impact of the 1994 Crime Bill 51:05 - The Role of the Black Church 52:11 - Gentrification and Economic Displacement 53:06 - The Importance of Skills and Trade Education 54:05 - College Education and Economic Independence 55:01 - The Role of Conscious Voices in Media 56:03 - Dr. Umar's Experience on The Breakfast Club 57:18 - The Impact of Viral Interviews 58:45 - Future Plans and Media Presence 59:24 - Closing Remarks and Call to Action

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