Celina Kurz has been playing in bands since she was in high school. Her current projects is Future Star. Former bands are True Crush and Kidnap Kids (originally Bears and Chairs) and has played in others, including The Trolls and Only A Visitor.

Venues visited:

The Mansion was a venue for house shows on Victoria and Adanac.

Astorino’s was the venue for the Safe Amplification Site Society (Safe Amp 2013-2015) at the site of a former dining hall at 1739 Venables Street.

Franklin Studios (1654 Franklin St) is an artspace which existed as a music venues for a period in the 2010s.

Flatlands is a house on Victoria Drive, north of Venables, which hosted an annual music festival called Flatlandia starting in 2016 and continuing for several years.

Other venues mentioned: TheTeen Raveup, the Zoo Zhop, the Moontower.

Musicians discussed include Tommy Tone, Chris-a-riffic, Rockridge, Lunch Lady, Dogbreth, Diners, Greenbelt Collective, Nicholas Krgovich.

Shout Back Festival! (2012, 2013 and 2014) was an anarcha-feminist, queer, radical, anti-capitalist DIY music festival .

Circle ‘Round is a new music series organized by Celina at the Lido.

Music clips used with artist permission.

Kidnap Kips: Stories from You Would Run From Ratboy Grave (2009, Geographing Records)

Trush Crush: diss appear from We Like Us (2013)

Future Star: Karoake from cryorities (2016)

Veda Hille is a beloved Vancouver musician, composer, theatre maker, and performer. She first played in a band called Mudlarks and started making records under her own name in 1991. She also had a children’s band called Duplex. She has been involved in music, art, and theatre for several decades, creating and collaborating in many genres. This conversation took place on May 14th 2024.

Venues visited:

La Quena Coffee House was at 1111 Commercial Drive from the early 1980s until 2000. It was a non-profit political meeting hub.

Cafe Deux Soleils (1393 Commercial Dr, ) was a vegetarian restaurant which hosted music and poetry events starting in the ‘90s, and closed in 2022.

Edison Electric Gallery of Moving Images, an experimental film centre run by Alex Mackenzie, was near Commercial and Venables.

The Oddfellows Hall at 1720 Graveley Street (a branch of the international frateral orgnization), held at least a dozen punk shows fom 1979 to 1984.

The York Theatre (639 Commercial Drive), where Veda Hille stages the East Van Panto each winter, was previously the New York Theatre rock venue in the ‘80s and ‘90s before becoming the Raja Bollywood Cinema.

Royal Canadian Legion Branch 179 at 2205 Commercial Dr.

Music clips used with artist permission.

Veda Hille: Neighbourhood Song from Songs About People and Buildings (1991)
One Hot Summer from Spine (1996)
LuckLucky from This Riot Life (2008)
Tracers from Beach Practice (2020)

Stephen Hamm played in Vancouver bands starting in the early 1980s, including Slow, Canned Hamm, Jungle, Tankhog and Nardwuar And The Evaporators. The Georgia Straight once called him ‘semi legendary.’ His current solo show is based around Theremin and Synthesizer. This conversation was recorded on April 16th 2024.

John Barley’s, at 23 W. Cordova Street, has been a music venue under many names (including the Cruel Elephant and the Hungry Eye) until as the Hindenberg it closed in 2018.

Bands discussed include Death Sentence, Another Kind of Blues, House of Commons, NoMeansNo, Shanghai Dog, Agent Orange, the Reptiles, The Nerve Tubes, Dayglo Abortions, Mission of Christ, Green River, July fourth toilet, Sea hags, Flaming Lips, Goo Goo Dolls, Change of Heart, Young Canadians, DOA, the Gits, Skinyard, the Dwarves, The Faith No More, Peaches, Mojo Nixon, the Replacements.

Other Venues visited: the Savoy (2 Powell Street), the Town Pump (66 Water St), Ms Ts Cabaret (339 West Pender), the Marine Club (573 Homer St), The Backstage Lounge (1181 Seymour Street).

Other venue discussed: Stalag 13, Luxury Bob’s, the Penthouse, the Smilin' Buddha, the Waterfront.

Music clips used with artist permission.

Slow: "I Have Not Been the Same" from Against the Glass (Zulu, 1986)

Stephen Hamm Theremin Man: "Valentina" 2021

Tankhog: "I Woke Up in Love This Morning" from House of Beauty (Zulu, 1992)

Gary Smith was a founding founder of the synthesizer-based Vancouver band Images in Vogue in 1981, after playing in various bands as a teenager. He went on to a later career as a music video producer and assistant director in film and TV. The conversation was recorded on March 14th, 2024.

Luv-a-fair (1275 Seymour Street) started life as a gay dance club in 1975, but soon attracted a wide audience for its legendary DJs and great selection of alternative music. They did not often host live events but Killing Joke, the Subhumans, Sonic Youth, the Violent Femmes, Wall of Voodoo and Nine Inch Nails all played there, as well as Images in Vogue.

Other bands discussed: Killing Joke, Skinny Puppy, Zingo, Moev, Numb, Wall of Voodoo, e, the Villains, Duran Duran.

Other venues discussed: Graceland, Quadra Club (later Club Soda and the Starfish Room), Pharaoh’s, The Viking Hall, The Body Shop, The Cave, Gary Taylor’s Rock Room.

Thank you to Kellarissa for the original theme music. Thanks to Glen Nelson and to Moev.

Music clips used with artist permission.

Images in Vogue: "Educated Man" from Educated Man EP (1982 B H & H)

e: "Power Blackout" from The Levitation Syndrome (1981 Rogolletti Records)

Moev: "Rotting Geraniums" (1982)

Bruce Dyck was the drummer in Fun 100, the B-Lines, You Say Party, They Shoot Horses and LeMaster. he is also the author of "Three reincarnations of the Smilin' Buddha Cabaret: Entertainment, gentrification, and respectability in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside 1952-84" a Master's thesis at SFU.

Ryan Dyck was the vocalist in Fun 100 and B-Lines. He was the label manager at Mint Records and ran Hockey Dad Records.

The Smilin’ Buddha Cabaret at 109 East Hastings Street began live as a cabaret in the 1950s. It evolved into Vancouver's iconic punk music venue in the late '70s and early 80s. It was a diy venue under the name SBC from 2013 to 2019, when it re-opened as Buddha's. It was the site of a fire in 2023 and is now closed.

Other venues visisted: Ms Ts Cabaret, Pub 340, original Red Gate (152 E Hastings), the Helen Pitt Gallery, Honey Lounge/The Lotus/Lick, Interurban Gallery, Brandy’s, The Regent, the Balmoral, the Cobalt.

Also mentioned: The Picadilly Pub, Burlesque House (Abbotsford), Pat’s Pub.

Vancouver Complication is a compilation album featuring many influential Vancouver punk bands. It was released in 1979 on Pinned Records and was compiled by Grant McDonagh who was a founder of Zulu Records. “Blanc Vanc!” at the Helen Pitt Gallery, was a two night show featuring U-J3RK5 (aka the U-Jerks), Exxotone, the Shades, [e], and a Generators reunion show.

Other bands discussed: Hot Hot Heat, The Unicorns, Three Inches of Blood, Witness Protection Program, Melt Banana, Nirvana, Fucked Up, SNFU, Blank Dogs, Pointed Sticks, Clorox Girls, Red Dawns, Tranzmitors, STREETS, the K-Tels, Glad Rags, the Skulls, the Furies, They Shoot Horses, Mutators, the Isotopes.

Thank you to Kellarissa for the original theme music. This conversation was recorded on February 17th, 2024.

Music clips used with artist permission.

Fun 100: "The Government" from Hit it & Quit. 2005

B-Lines: "Opening Band" from Opening Band LP on Hockey Dad Records. 2014

Ida Nilsen has played in Beans, Cunt, Great Aunt Ida, the Buttless Chaps, Radiogram, The Gay and others.

Ida was involved with The Sugar Refinery venue as a musician, employee and owner. The Sugar Refinery was a vegetarian restaurant and music venue from the mid '90s to 2003 at 1115 Granville Street. It was known for fostering local music projects which were experimental, collaborative, and whimsical. It was the site of a 48 hour show by the band Beans, who played there dozens of times.

Other venues visited: The Blinding Light!, an underground cinema which ran from 1998-2003 at 36 Powell Street. The Marine Club was at 573 Homer Street and lasted from 1957-2007. The site is now a parking lot.

Other venues we passed: the Brickyard, The Gold Saucer.

Bands discussed: The Beans, the Ids, the Molestics, Kirsten and Jim, Show Business Giants, Handsome Family, Vic Chestnut, Sawdust Collector.

Thank you to Kellarissa for the original theme music. Thank you to George at Zum for permission to use the audio from Tired Snow. The conversation was recorded on January 3rd, 2024.

Music clips used with artist permission.

Great Aunt Ida: "Water and Bones" from Our Fall

Beans: "All-Emcompassing Dust" from Tired Snow EP

Scott Morgan is best known as the electronic music project loscil. He previously played in Meet Daisy, Thee Crusaders, Destroyer, The Multiplex and others.

The Blinding Light! was an underground cinema which ran from 1998-2003 at 36 Powell Street. Founded by Alex MacKenzie as a follow-up to his Edison Electric Gallery of Moving Images (1995-1997), the space housed a cafe, a gallery and a 110-seat cinema. It showed new and classic underground and avant garde films, hosted nights to bring your own 8mm films and hosted experimental bands with a visual element.

Other venues visited include the Cruel Elephant (23 W. Cordova St), The Town Pump (66 Water St), Amnesia (356 Water St), Blim (23 w Pender), @ Gallery (425 Carrall St).

Other venues mentioned: The Edison Electric, Helen Pitt Gallery, Archimedes Club, Station Street Art Centre, Or Gallery.

Other bands mentioned: Steel Pole Bath Tub, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, Negativeland, the Jades, Jesus Lizard, Pearl Jam (Town Pump show 1991), The Rose Chronicles, The Odds, Dick & Jane, Mudhoney, Helmet, Superconductor, Marc Ribot, Shiny Greedy, Slowhand, Strategy, Growing, Sinoia Caves.

The conversation was recorded on January 26th, 2024.

Music clips played with artists' permission.

Loscil: Triton from submers

Ticker Tape Parade: Audience with the Pope

Destroyer: M.E.R.C.I. from Thief

Lindiwe Coyne performed as Wandering Lucy in the 1990s and her music came out on K Records. Her Discorder cover story is here. Her live set on CiTr’s Live from Thunderbird Radio Hell is here.

The Malcolm Lowry Room was at 4125 Hastings Street in Burnaby, operated by the writer Michael Turner as a music venue in the mid-1990s. It was previously the North Burnaby Inn, a stripclub.

Other venues discussed: The Good Jacket, The Starfish Room, the Treehouse Lounge at the St Regis Hotel, Edison Electric Gallery of Moving Images, the Blinding Light!, St Michael’s Multicultural Anglican Church (409 E Broadway), the Sugar Refinery.

Other musicians mentioned: Bob Wiseman, Bob’s your Uncle/Sook Yin Lee, Lisa Marr/cub, the Smugglers, the Colorifics, Built to Spill, Calvin Johnson, Dub Narcotic, Beat Happening, Halo Benders, Mecca Normal, Furnace Face, Trenchmouth, Fitz of Depression, Link, Shadowy Men for a Shadowy Planet, the Sadies, Fifth Column, Phonocomb, July Fourth Toilet, Ticker Tape Parade, Hard Rock Miners, Dan Bejar/Destroyer, Neko Case, DOA.

K Records is a legendary independent record label founded in 1982 in Olympia, Washington. Yoyo A Go Go was a festival they put on for the first year in 1994.

Thank you to Jean Smith.

Music clips used with artist permission

Wandering Lucy: Lady Genius from Leap Year (1996, K Records)

Mecca Normal: Ribbon from Flood Plain (1993, K Records)

Wandering Lucy: I Know One Thing from Leap Year (1996, K Records)