In this episode, I sit down with a business builder who breaks down one of the most misunderstood realities of winning: you cannot live a balanced life and expect uncommon results.

We dig into why obsession — not talent, not IQ, not luck — is the real separator between top performers and everyone else. From chess masters to elite entrepreneurs, the pattern is the same: the ones who win hardest are the ones who care the most.

We also talk about:

- How to know if you're actually passionate about your business — or just forcing it

- Why most people quit before ever getting good

- The dangers of choosing the wrong business model

- The single most underpriced skill in the marketplace today

- What he wishes he understood at 20 (especially about scalability)

- And why the business you pick matters more than the effort you put in

If you're a creator, coach, or entrepreneur trying to pick the right path — this episode will save you years of trial and error.

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Timestamps:

1:10 From Orthodox Jew to call center owner

1:33 Becoming religious “by accident” (because of a girl)

2:30 Oxford, Budapest & leaving religion behind

3:29 “I got sued INTO a business” – entering HVAC

4:06 From cigar kiosk to high-end cigar lounge

4:47 Landlord lawsuits & expensive HVAC lessons

5:24 Meeting the HVAC tech who became his partner

6:07 Launching an HVAC company with zero experience

6:32 Pivoting from HVAC into solar (and why solar is brutal)

8:15 Accidentally discovering the power of call centers

9:13 Fixing the real problem: nobody calls their leads

10:00 The VA who started cold calling (and it worked)

10:46 Building a real call center: dialers, scripts, systems

11:20 What Scalifi actually does for home service companies

12:25 Why Peter refuses long-term contracts

14:36 How they source and filter cold-calling data

18:51 The real math of cold calling (300 contacts → 1–2 appointments)

20:08 Why cold calling works because it’s hard

23:11 When cold calling doesn’t make financial sense

25:00 How to pay call center agents the right way

27:01 The real challenge: managing humans, not tools

31:07 Why he only hires callers from Latin America

35:46 The metrics that actually matter (CPA is king)

37:29 Why he can’t use a call center to sell call centers

41:34 Immigrant upbringing & watching his dad start over

44:46 Business as a hobby – why he’d “retire” into another company

47:05 Starting work at 11 a.m. & designing a “retired” lifestyle

50:07 Struggling with content and fixing it with a media team

53:18 Unpopular truth: you can’t be balanced, you must be obsessed

55:22 Lightning round: mistakes, reading, and scalability lessons

56:58 Where to find Peter online (Scalifi)

In this episode, I sit down with Jeremy Miner, global sales strategist and founder of Seventh Level, whose Neuro-Emotional Persuasion Questioning (NEPQ) method has transformed over 400,000 sales professionals across 40+ countries.

Jeremy shares how he went from knocking doors in Utah to building one of the largest sales training companies in the world — redefining how we sell through behavioural science and psychology.

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We dive deep into his journey:

- How studying psychology helped him understand buyer behavior

- Why most salespeople lose deals before they even begin

- How to ask questions that interrupt patterns and make people sell themselves

- The truth about “late” success — starting your business after 18 years in sales

- The mindset shifts that separate good salespeople from great ones

- How to balance family, faith, and growth while scaling a global brand

- His vision for AI-powered sales training — and why success is simply a choice

Timestamps:

00:00 The 100-Doors Rule — Reverse-Engineering Rejection

01:55 Meet Jeremy Miner + NEPQ in 60 Seconds

03:35 Door-to-Door Origins → $500K in College (and dropping out)

05:40 Buyer Psychology: Pattern Interrupts & Results-Based Thinking

10:30 Connection Questions & Don’t Assume the Sale

11:50 Frameworks vs. Scripts: Sound Natural, Sell More

14:45 Faith, History & Why It’s Called “Seventh Level”

21:00 18 Years in Sales → Founder: Wins, Losses, Mentors

29:40 Objection Prevention & Identity Framing (spouse, “think it over”)

39:00 Scaling People & Culture — Hire for Commitment

47:00 Content That Converts — Niche over Broad

1:04:00 The Future: 7Q AI + Success Is a Choice (No Plan B)

If you’re in sales, entrepreneurship, or simply want to master influence and human connection — this episode is a masterclass from one of the best to ever do it.

Ready to grow your brand and income?

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In this episode, I sit down with Cole Gordon, the founder of Closers.io, who scaled his company from $0 to $30M a year in just 26 months.

Cole shares the full story — from sending 350 cold emails that never delivered, to discovering his talent in sales, to building one of the largest recruiting and sales training companies in the industry.

We unpack:

- How a failed $8,000 investment turned into a $100M business model

- The mindset shift that took him from bartender to CEO

- His system for hiring, training, and placing elite sales teams

- The real reason most people never break through in sales

- His long-term vision to take Closers.io to 9 figures — and beyond

If you’re an entrepreneur, sales leader, or coach looking to build a world-class team and dominate your market, this episode is a must-listen.

Timestamps:

00:00 – From bartender to entrepreneur

04:00 – The $8,000 mistake that changed everything

10:00 – Breaking into sales and discovering his gift

16:00 – Launching Closers.io from scratch

22:00 – Recruiting and building elite sales teams

30:00 – Scaling from $1M to $30M in 26 months

38:00 – Going from done-for-you to enterprise level

46:00 – How Cole invests and manages millions

56:00 – Getting engaged and building balance

1:00:00 – Best sales lessons and habits for success

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In this episode, I sit down with Bridger Rogers — high-ticket sales strategist, founder of The Freedom Closer Blueprint, and mentor to Gen Z entrepreneurs — to unpack the powerful story behind his rise, fall, and rebirth through faith.From closing deals in high school to building six-figure sales teams by 20, Bridger had the money, cars, and success — but still felt completely empty. In this conversation, he opens up about how chasing freedom through sales eventually led him to something much deeper: discovering truth, purpose, and God.We dive into how Bridger overcame identity struggles, toxic ambition, and spiritual emptiness… and how he now helps young men build both income and integrity through faith-based principles.If you’ve ever questioned what success really means — this episode is for you.Timestamps:00:00 Intro — “If you know the truth, the truth will set you free”02:10 From bagging groceries to closing online deals at 1707:00 Building an affiliate army & early business lessons10:40 Losing it all and rebuilding from scratch12:50 Finding purpose through high-ticket sales17:00 Why making money isn’t the answer21:00 Rediscovering faith and redefining freedom33:00 The moment that changed everything42:00 How to build a life of faith, discipline & impact50:00 What legacy really means👉 Ready to build wealth and freedom online?https://go.eliteceos.com/new-elite-main-vsl-4954?utm_source=ep085

In this episode, I sit down with Michael Sheedy — elite fitness and performance coach for entrepreneurs — to uncover how he built a thriving business and world-class mindset rooted in discipline, purpose, and traditional values.From losing his sister and riding the bus to work at 18… to coaching high-performing CEOs on optimizing their body, mind, and business — Michael’s story is a masterclass in using pain to find purpose.We dive deep into:- Why instant gratification is destroying mental toughness- How pain and purpose shape true success- The habits that separate elite performers from everyone else- What most entrepreneurs get wrong about fitness, balance, and burnout- Why traditional values still matter in a modern worldIf you’re an entrepreneur or high performer chasing more than just money — this episode will challenge how you think about success, happiness, and what it really means to win long-term.Timestamps:00:00 Intro — Instant gratification & mental weakness02:00 Michael’s turning point at 1806:00 Pain as the fuel for purpose10:00 Discipline vs burnout14:00 Why most people never change their physique19:00 The next big shift in fitness & performance23:00 Fitness and business success27:00 Investing in yourself & mentorship33:00 Are men getting weaker? Traditional values & dating45:00 Purpose over happiness — and why comfort kills50:00 Final thoughts — No one’s coming to save youReady to build a body, business, and life that last?👉 https://go.eliteceos.com/new-elite-main-vsl-4954?utm_source=ep084

In this episode, I sit down with Benson Chidester — former CEO of Elite CEOs and now Director of Sales at Acquisition.com — to talk about what separates good entrepreneurs from great operators.

We go deep on the lessons he’s learned working alongside Alex and Leila Hormozi, what door-to-door sales taught him about grit, and how growing up in a strict household shaped his drive and discipline.

From risking it all to betting on yourself, Benson reveals why most people stay average — and how to break through the comfort ceiling to reach your next level.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, scared to take the next big leap, or unsure how to lead your team at scale — this episode is a must-watch.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro — Discipline, risk, and growth

03:30 Lessons from strict parenting

06:45 What door-to-door sales really teaches you

10:25 Why people stop growing once they hit “good enough”

13:40 Lessons from working with Alex & Leila Hormozi

17:00 Breaking beliefs and scaling sales teams

22:10 The hidden cost of doing nothing

28:00 Faith, family, and staying grounded

33:10 The power of consistency in business and fitness

38:00 Risk, reward, and learning to think like a billionaire

44:30 What separates billion-dollar operators

51:00 Why most entrepreneurs fail to pivot

57:00 Inside the record-breaking book launch

1:02:00 Final thoughts — Doing the hard things

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Welcome to The Infinite Income Podcast with Tanner Chidester

In this episode, I sit down with John Madsen — former NFL athlete turned high-performance founder of Suprahuman, a global fitness brand helping high achievers master both body and mindset.

John opens up about breaking his leg before the NFL draft, going completely broke after football, and rebuilding from zero to now running a company pacing over $50 million a year.

We dive deep into:

What life in the NFL is really like behind the scenes

How losing everything gave him fearlessness in business

The video that changed his career overnight

Scaling from $300K to $50M with his wife as COO

Lessons on leadership, money, and staying grounded while building a family and empire

If you’ve ever hit rock bottom, questioned your path, or wondered what separates the elite from the average — this episode is your blueprint for resilience and reinvention.

Timestamps:

00:00 From NFL dreams to breaking his leg

07:00 Going broke and shutting down his first gym

11:00 The $20K loan that changed everything

14:00 The viral video that built a $50M brand

20:00 Finding the right partner in business and life

27:00 What really happens behind NFL fame

36:00 Building systems and scaling beyond yourself

43:00 How to pay (and retain) your team the right way

49:00 Breaking money mindset blocks

55:00 Why you should unapologetically chase what you want

1:00:00 Raising a daughter with drive and humility

1:03:00 John’s rule for life: Show up and never quit

Ready to learn what it takes to build greatness from the ground up?

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In this episode, I sit down with Nineveh Madsen — an award-winning journalist turned entrepreneur, now CEO and co-founder of Supra Human, the premium coaching company scaling toward 8+ figures.

We dive into her journey from broadcast news burnout to scaling tech and fitness businesses — while raising a family and redefining what it means to be both a present mother and a powerful CEO.

Nineveh opens up about:

Why she left a successful career in journalism to start from scratch in business

How she scaled teams and systems at her father’s cybersecurity company from $5M to $35M+

The mindset shift that let her step into the CEO role (even when she didn’t want to)

Balancing motherhood and business without sacrificing either

The biggest mistake women make in entrepreneurship — and how to avoid it

If you’re an entrepreneur, parent, or leader trying to build without burning out, this conversation will challenge the way you think about growth, identity, and success.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro — From journalism to CEO

02:10 Learning business from the ground up

06:45 Scaling OpenVPN from $5M to $35M

10:20 Overcoming rejection, self-doubt & abusive relationships

17:00 Can you be a mom and build a business?

23:45 Scaling Supra Human to multi-8 figures

30:00 Building systems, teams & boundaries

39:00 Parenting, identity, and purpose

43:30 How women can stand out in business

50:00 Non-negotiables for health, family, and leadership

57:00 Why money is just a tool (and how Nineveh thinks about wealth)

1:02:20 Lightning round — most powerful lessons

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