What do we as ministry leaders do when our facilities begin to run out of space? Should we immediately begin a building campaign, or are there other creative ways to still serve our people in our current spaces? Too many people in too small a space is a good problem to have, but it can be a hard one to solve. Executive pastor Jeremy Thiessen joins Erin and Doug for this week’s episode of The Intentional Churches podcast to talk how to prepare for physical expansion without losing sight of your church’s vision for developing disciples.

Jeremy has served as the executive pastor for Shelter Cove in Modesto, California for five years, and from 2022 to 2024, saw their weekend attendance double in size. That fast growth prompted Jeremy and his team to start thinking about expansion, and the challenges and opportunities that come with that conversation. Throughout the episode Erin and Doug also share their own insights when it comes to building, creative solutions if a building campaign isn’t possible or isn’t the right way to serve your people, and how to always keep the Great Commission front of mind, rather than getting caught up in a building project.

Whether your church is running out of physical space, or you’re simply needing a word on how to continue discipling your people well—this episode is for you!

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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Personal Background
03:11 Preparing for the Next Season of Ministry
04:07 The Journey of Shelter Cove Community Church
06:01 Transition to an Attractional Model
07:23 Engaging with Intentional Churches
08:47 Experiencing Significant Growth
09:46 National Trends in Church Growth and Space Challenges
14:24 Space Challenges at Shelter Cove Community Church
16:20 Considering Capital Campaign and Building Plans
20:46 Creative Solutions for Space Challenges
23:17 Cautionary Thoughts on Building Projects
25:44 Aligning Vision and Addressing Space Needs
28:55 Practical Advice for Planning and Space Management
32:57 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

On this week’s episode of The Intentional Churches podcast, we’re continuing to talk about how we prepare well for that next big “push” in ministry—specifically how to prioritize our own mental, spiritual, and emotional health as leaders. Licensed professional counselor and Gallup Strengths Coach, Stefanie Rowe, joins Erin and Doug, outlining the crisis many pastors and church leaders are facing when it comes to the state of their mental health.

Throughout their conversation, Stefanie shares stats that might surprise you, including: 1 in 5 pastors are struggling with addiction, 50% struggle with depression, 1 in 3 with burnout, and 60% feel lonely. Additionally, only 1 out of 6 pastors are getting the help they need. So, what can those of us in ministry do to make sure we’re prioritizing our own mental health? Stefanie draws on her years of experience and background as a teaching pastor to outline some best practices for pastors (or anyone!) struggling. Erin and Doug add their own insights, talking about taking intentional time off during slower seasons of ministry, putting relationships first, refusing to neglect your own time with God, and being off social media.

Whatever season of life or ministry you find yourself in, this conversation is full of practical tips to help us all practice what we preach and work to prioritize our own mental health!

Learn more about Stefanie and her work on her website:
https://www.stefanierowe.com/

Two helpful resources Stefanie recommends for pastors and church leaders struggling in any of the areas mentioned in this episode include

The State of Pastors volumes 1 and 2:
https://shop.barna.com/products/the-state-of-pastors-vol-2

The Resilient Pastor:
https://a.co/d/08YrszjG

Intentional Churches:
Website: https://intentionalchurches.com
The Book: https://a.co/d/hFlz17C
The Blog: https://intentionalchurches.com/blog/
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Chapters:
00:00 | Introduction and Overview
03:10 | The State of Mental, Emotional, and Spiritual Health of Church Leaders
12:22 | Prioritizing Self-Care: Practicing What You Preach
22:46 | Taking Breaks from Social Media: Reducing Stress and Improving Well-Being
25:31 | Taking Inventory: Reflecting on What Went Well and What Didn't
26:59 | Setting Boundaries: Prioritizing Self-Care for Long-Term Health

In this episode, Erin and Doug welcome Holly Gillespie to discuss the importance of designing church systems and processes with the one in mind. They spotlight the need to shift from a buffet-style approach to a more intentional and targeted strategy that focuses on those who are far from God. They talk through the importance of mindset shifts, such as considering what it's like on the other side of the church experience and overcoming the fear of neglecting the 99. They also discuss the need for prayer, team conversations, and small steps to begin implementing these changes.

Intentional Churches:
Website: https://intentionalchurches.com
The Book: https://a.co/d/hFlz17C
The Blog: https://intentionalchurches.com/blog
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/intentional-churches/mycompany
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Chapters:
00:00 Designing Church Systems and Processes with the One in Mind
06:33 The Evolution and Transition in Church
10:43 Shifting from a Buffet-Style Approach to Intentional Targeting
14:07 Mindset Shifts and Overcoming Fear