Episodios

  • Andrade: The Legend Before Pele!
    Jul 23 2024

    *This episode of It Was What It Was discusses issues including racism, with content that some listeners may find offensive.*


    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.

    In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the successful Uruguay National team of the 1920s and one their key players, Jose Leandro Andrade, who was perhaps one of the first to spark a global mania over a footballer.

    Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the history of Uruguay, how they develop such an impressive team to became one of football’s first global powerhouses, winning gold in the 1924 and 1928 Olympics and lifting the first FIFA World Cup in 1930.

    Jonathan and Rob also provide a detailed analysis of Uruguay’s style of play and their key players, with a particular focus on the life of Jose Leandro Andrade, his journey into football, his rise to fame and falling into poverty.

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    1 h y 18 m
  • Goodbye Gareth: Ranking Southgate’s England Era
    Jul 17 2024

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.


    In this week's bonus episode, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper talk about Gareth Southgate and England's Euro 2024 tournament - which proved to be Southgate's last as the Three Lions manager.


    Jonathan and Rob reflect on Euro 2024, before questioning where Southgate ranks amongst the greatest English managers - after guiding his country to two Euro finals and a World Cup semi-final after decades of underachievement.


    Get in touch with the podcast on socials to let us know where you would place Southgate amongst England's managers.



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    1 h y 9 m
  • Dezso Solti: Auschwitz Survivor, Match-fixer
    Jul 16 2024
    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was. In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the story of Dezso Solti, a complex character who was one of the most notorious and biggest match fixers in European football during the 1960s and 1970s. Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into Solti’s extraordinary and horrific origin story in Auschwitz death camp as a Hungarian Jew in 1944, how he got out of Hungary and into Italy. Jonathan and Rob provide a detailed analysis of Solti’s journey into Italian football, match fixing in this era, the bribing of match officials, including the semi-final of the 1965 European Cup and the evidence that leads to his banning from football. If you enjoyed the podcast, please hit subscribe to never miss an episode.



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    1 h y 9 m
  • The Ban on Women's Football and its Resilient Rise
    Jul 9 2024

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.

    In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the 1920 Boxing Day game between Dick Kerr ladies and St Helens Ladies at Goodison, which remained the biggest crowd at a women’s game in England for over 90 years. It also appeared to be a historic turning point, as the FA would ban women’s football a year later on the 5th December 1921.

    Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the growth of women’s football in the 19th-century, looking at the formation of Dick, Kerr Ladies in Preston during WW1, the powerhouse they would become in English football, the attention their football would attract and the large crowds it created.

    Jonathan and Rob provide a detailed analysis of the lead-up to the game on Boxing Day that attracted 52,000 fans, raising money for wounded soldiers, the months that followed which led to the FA’s decision to ban women’s football and looking at how far we have come since.

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    1 h y 15 m
  • The End of Alf: The Fall of England's Greatest Manager, Part 2
    Jul 4 2024

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.

    In Part One, journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper set the scene for the qualification of the 1972 Euro quarter-final, where England were knocked out by West Germany. We now delve into the continuing years of decline as England failed to qualify for the following three major tournaments.

    Having won the World Cup in 1966, Sir Alf Ramsey’s England side descend into struggle as Jonathan and Rob provide an in-depth look at where it goes wrong for England and how it came to the point where a World Cup winning manager was sacked by his country.

    We look into England’s failure to qualify for the 1974 World Cup in their group with Wales and Poland, as Ramsey’s tactics and style of play led to his sacking, as well as the aftermath for the Three Lions.

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    1 h y 2 m
  • The End of Sir Alf: The Fall of England's Greatest Manager, Part 1
    Jul 2 2024

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.

    In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look into the decline of England's most successful manager Sir Alf Ramsey, exploring how his 1966 World Cup winners were beaten by a much-improved West Germany side over two quarter-final qualification legs for Euro 1972.

    Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the tactical revolution of England under Alf Ramsey, from their World Cup win in 1966 to their descent in Euro 1972, as West Germany’s positional intelligence show that England were no longer the best in the world.

    Jonathan and Rob provide a detailed analysis of Ramsey’s style of play, the build-up to the first leg quarter-final defeat at Wembley, the changing relationship between England and West Germany from 1966 to 1972 and the key players in those tournaments.

    Our second part is out on Thursday 4th July.

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  • Euro 1984: The Magic of Michel Platini
    Jun 25 2024

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.


    In this week’s episode, on its 40th Anniversary, we dive into Euro 1984, a tournament that marked a pivotal moment in French football history as they lifted a major tournament trophy for the first time.


    Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the impact of Michel Platini, whose footballing prowess and leadership played a crucial role in guiding France to victory on their home turf. They also analyse how the tournament shaped European football and paved the way for future international competitions.


    Jonathan and Rob provide a detailed analysis of the group stages, revisit the historic knockout stage clashes, including the semi-final regarded as the Euro’s greatest ever match between France and Portugal, which culminated in France’s triumphant 2-0 final win over Spain.


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    1 h y 14 m
  • Euro 2012: Spain's Pinnacle in Poland & Ukraine
    Jun 18 2024

    In this week’s episode, we take an in-depth look at Euro 2012, a tournament fondly remembered as the crowning moment in Spain’s era of dominance, marking their third consecutive major win following Euro 2008 and the 2010 World Cup.


    Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper kick things off by delving into the politics behind the decision to host the tournament in Poland and Ukraine, exploring how the host cities managed the logistical challenges and the lasting impact of the event.


    Jonathan and Rob provide a comprehensive overview of the group stages, highlighting memorable moments such as Danny Welbeck’s back-heeled winner against Sweden. They then move on to iconic knockout stage moments, including Andrea Pirlo’s masterful penalty, Mario Balotelli’s unforgettable performance against Germany and Spain’s utterly dominant 4-0 victory over Italy in the final.


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    1 h y 7 m