This week on Going There with Dr. Mike, The Lumineers’ Jeremiah Fraites goes deep into his mental health journey, diving into his relationship with negative space and staring down the void. Listen to the songwriter and multi-instrumentalist share his experience.

Fraites, a founding member of The Lumineers, talks vulnerably about his struggle with existential dread and the search for meaning. Ultimately, he shares how he turned that turmoil into a coping strategy, teaching himself how to interpret uncertainty and emptiness as a somewhat liberating force instead of a crushing one.

Listen to Jeremiah Fraites chat about all of this and more in the new episode of Going There with Dr. Mike.

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