In this episode, Clare is in conversation with her husband Tunji Akinsehiwa a Boston University professor and international cinemaphotographer. Tunji shares what it was like to be the person who moved for work. He talks about juggling the needs of your family with settling into a new job while adapting to a culture that is very foreign to you.

He and Clare discuss some of the challenges they faced when moving to the USA. In particular, the ones that caught them a bit unawares. For example, surprising cultural differences, realising you do not have all of the rights you were expecting to have, dealing with bureaucracy and additional expenses.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• On top of the stress of starting a new job there is a lot of anxiety surrounding settling family members into a new country.
• Getting the timing of the paperwork, travel arrangements and finding a home is difficult and things rarely go as planned.
• Moving to a developed, English-speaking country is still not easy. Things do not always work in the way you expect and there are significant cultural differences.
• Often, the rights of the partner of the person with the work visa can be more limited than you expect. Sometimes they are not allowed to work too.
• Most days, something happens that reminds you that you are from outside.
• If you want to live abroad, make it your intention to do so, instead of thinking of it as a dream. Once you set it as an intention, it is far more likely to happen.

BEST MOMENTS

‘We literally started again, it´s almost like being born again. ´

‘If you don't know the right questions to ask, you don't ask them.’

‘The rose-tinted glasses have come off that´s for sure.’

‘At least 20% of the job is to inspire your students. To make them believe they can achieve great things.’

EPISODE RESOURCES

https://www.bu.edu/com/articles/nollywood-the-next-big-thing/

ABOUT THE HOST – CLARE KAY

Clare has moved countries many times throughout her life, from China to Taiwan, Nigeria, Zambia, and the USA. She has also travelled the world for various businesses and now wishes to impart her advice to others to save them time, money, and energy.

Clare follows three principles central to her endeavours. First, she looks outward internationally, working with people overseas or of different nationalities. Second, she is obsessed with communication, having learned French, German and Mandarin Chinese. She also teaches English and works as an editor for others’ work. Clare is passionate about making a difference through her coaching in the world of personal development.

CONTACT METHOD

www.kayproofreading.com

www.linkedin.com/in/clarekay

https://www.facebook.com/KayProofreading

Podcast Description

When you move for a new job, to live with someone after a long-distance relationship or to explore the benefits of a new lifestyle, moving countries occurs as an opportunity, but it still might be a bumpy ride. Moving Countries 101 presents a paradox of moving to a new destination, but it being all about the journey: the ongoing experience of having moved countries.

Clare and her guests share the human stories of an ancient undertaking in modern times. Moving countries prompts change, and change provokes being unsettled emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually. On all these fronts, moving countries promotes observation, opportunity, and discovery.

In this episode, Clare is joined by Luisa Yu, a travel agent who has visited all 193 countries worldwide. She was born in The Philippines and moved to America for her first job, fell in love with the country and raised her daughter there. At 80, she is still just as enthusiastic about travel, and will soon revisit Russia, Pakistan, Somalia, Austria, and The Philippines.

Luisa has a wealth of experience and shares many entertaining and informative stories and her “While I can attitude.” Including how becoming a global celebrity caught her by surprise.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Take every travel opportunity. Time is precious, you never know if you will get the chance again.
• Everybody in the world wants the same basic things. We all have the same dreams.
• Being a travel agent is the perfect job for a globe trotter. It provides you with amazing flexibility. Luisa did it to make her dream come true.
• Getting visas is not always easy, even for seasoned travellers. Be patient and persistent.
• Some countries are so small that they only take a few hours to explore.
• When you travel to remote spots you have to be prepared to get stuck there. It is not unusual for transport to be sparse or cancelled.
• Don´t forget to explore the country you live in. Luisa has visited 45 of America´s states.
• Make sure you still take care of your family while fulfilling your travel dreams.

BEST MOMENTS

‘Travelling makes me be a humble person. ´

‘I love how you don´t let anything stop you.’

‘If you have the will there´s a way.’

GUEST AND EPISODE RESOURCES

https://nomadmania.com/interview-luisa-yu/

At 79 years old, Luisa Yu went to Serbia, completing her accomplishment of visiting 193 countries.

She grew up in the Philippines, but moved to the US as an exchange student in her twenties. Since then, Luisa has travelled extensively across the world engaging with numerous cultures and taking on exciting adventures. She has been to nearly all the states in the US, and to every country in Africa.

luisa_yu14 Instagram

ABOUT THE HOST – CLARE KAY

Clare has moved countries many times throughout her life, from China to Taiwan, Nigeria, Zambia, and the USA. She has also travelled the world for various businesses and now wishes to impart her advice to others to save them time, money, and energy.

Clare follows three principles central to her endeavours. First, she looks outward internationally, working with people overseas or of different nationalities. Second, she is obsessed with communication, having learned French, German and Mandarin Chinese. She also teaches English and works as an editor for others’ work. Clare is passionate about making a difference through her coaching in the world of personal development.

CONTACT METHOD

www.kayproofreading.com

www.linkedin.com/in/clarekay

https://www.facebook.com/KayProofreading

Podcast Description

When you move for a new job, to live with someone after a long-distance relationship or to explore the benefits of a new lifestyle, moving countries occurs as an opportunity, but it still might be a bumpy ride. Moving Countries 101 presents a paradox of moving to a new destination, but it being all about the journey: the ongoing experience of having moved countries.

Clare and her guests share the human stories of an ancient undertaking in modern times. Moving countries prompts change, and change provokes being unsettled emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually. On all these fronts, moving countries promotes observation, opportunity, and discovery.

In this episode, Clare is joined by Yaz Máximo a childbirth educator who is originally from Brazil. Yaz has lived in Holland, Denmark, Switzerland, the UK and travelled widely. She now lives in Bangkok, Thailand with her husband and children.

Yaz and Clare share strategies anyone can use to adapt to new environments, cultural differences and communication styles. They discuss how to avoid living in an expat bubble, the Thai culture, food, raising children in a bilingual home and how to discover and enjoy the real Thailand.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Putting your children in a bilingual local school, instead of an international one, is an excellent way for them to learn the language.
• Thai people are kind and welcoming and especially good with children.
• There is a lot of culture to enjoy and quirky things to experience in Bangkok.
• It is not easy for people from abroad to buy property in Thailand.
• The best cooks work near the shrines in Bangkok.
• It is still possible to find places that are off the beaten track.
• Thai people are helpful, innovative and resilient. There is always a way.
• Thailand is very bureaucratic.
• Thai people are respectful and accepting. They try very hard to avoid conflict and causing offence. But like everyone they have limits and will get angry.
• Some of the more beautiful old areas of Bangkok are disappearing.

BEST MOMENTS

‘Bangkok doesn´t really go to sleep. ´

‘It´s very difficult to integrate with the larger population.’

‘People are very solution orientated.’

ABOUT THE HOST – CLARE KAY

Clare has moved countries many times throughout her life, from China to Taiwan, Nigeria, Zambia, and the USA. She has also travelled the world for various businesses and now wishes to impart her advice to others to save them time, money, and energy.

Clare follows three principles central to her endeavours. First, she looks outward internationally, working with people overseas or of different nationalities. Second, she is obsessed with communication, having learned French, German and Mandarin Chinese. She also teaches English and works as an editor for others’ work. Clare is passionate about making a difference through her coaching in the world of personal development.

CONTACT METHOD

www.kayproofreading.com

www.linkedin.com/in/clarekay

https://www.facebook.com/KayProofreading

Podcast Description

When you move for a new job, to live with someone after a long-distance relationship or to explore the benefits of a new lifestyle, moving countries occurs as an opportunity, but it still might be a bumpy ride. Moving Countries 101 presents a paradox of moving to a new destination, but it being all about the journey: the ongoing experience of having moved countries.

Clare and her guests share the human stories of an ancient undertaking in modern times. Moving countries prompts change, and change provokes being unsettled emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually. On all these fronts, moving countries promotes observation, opportunity, and discovery.

Today, Clare is joined by Tracy Nnanwubar, who is originally from Lagos, Nigeria. She has spent time in the UK, India, South Africa and worked in the USA. Tracy moved to Canada with her children not long after she lost a son in a car crash. Tracey managed to secure work as a university adjunct professor and Tracy is now able to provide her children with a good life, plenty of opportunities and long-term security. Tracy is an incredibly open person, so you will learn a huge amount from this beautiful episode.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Living abroad pushes you to see yourself in different ways, to be resourceful and grow.
• Canada has a strong socialist economy, and rewards those who use their abilities well.
• Maximise your abilities and use them to help society and the next generation.
• With your brain you can build a new career.
• Hard work is important, but it is gathering information and strategizing how you use your strength and abilities that gets you there.
• Be patient with yourself as well as with others.

BEST MOMENTS

‘Everybody has their own challenge … but I wanted them to have less battles to fight.’

‘I literally have been able to turn my brain into money within two years of being here. ´

‘You are a totally beautiful mother. It's very moving listening to you. ´

‘You also want the child to be emotionally fluent. ´

ABOUT THE GUEST

Tracy Nnanwubar is a university adjunct professor with a deep love of English language and literature that she shares with her students. Discovering language and literature as an expression of her feelings, Tracy wrote her first novel in her early twenties. The novel 'Red Pepper and English Tea' was inspired by her experiences of growing up in Lagos, Nigeria and visiting the UK. She has spent time in South Africa and India.

Tracy now lives in British Columbia, Canada, with her children.

Tracy's links are:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracynnanwubar

https://www.twu.ca/profile/tracy-nnanwubar

Tracy´s 1ST Book - http://www.goodtimesbooks.com/servlet/Getbiblio?bno=00000071

ABOUT THE HOST – CLARE KAY

Clare has moved countries many times throughout her life, from China to Taiwan, Nigeria, Zambia, and the USA. She has also travelled the world for various businesses and now wishes to impart her advice to others to save them time, money, and energy.

Clare follows three principles central to her endeavours. First, she looks outward internationally, working with people overseas or of different nationalities. Second, she is obsessed with communication, having learned French, German and Mandarin Chinese. She also teaches English and works as an editor for others’ work. Clare is passionate about making a difference through her coaching in the world of personal development.

CONTACT METHOD

www.kayproofreading.com

www.linkedin.com/in/clarekay

https://www.facebook.com/KayProofreading

Podcast Description

When you move for a new job, to live with someone after a long-distance relationship or to explore the benefits of a new lifestyle, moving countries occurs as an opportunity, but it still might be a bumpy ride. Moving Countries 101 presents a paradox of moving to a new destination, but it being all about the journey: the ongoing experience of having moved countries.

Clare and her guests share the human stories of an ancient undertaking in modern times. Moving countries prompts change, and change provokes being unsettled emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually. On all these fronts, moving countries promotes observation, opportunity, and discovery.

For this episode, Clare is once again joined by Katie Sharpe who first appeared on the podcast in Jan 2024 to share her journey from flight attendant to Californian artist. Katie moved to the USA for love and is back today to talk about becoming a mother while living abroad. She explains how waiting for her green card affected the decision to have a baby and how having several cultures at play is influencing the dynamic of her family and new child.

Katie also talks about doctor shopping, the experience of being pregnant in a new country, giving birth, and differences in nursing and maternity leave in the USA. She also covers the cost of daycare and early schooling.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• Having to wait a long time to get her green card affected when Katie and her husband started their family.
• In America, racial identity is talked about far more than in the UK. Katie explains how this has resulted in some surprising and tricky conversations she was not expecting to have.
• Katie´s experience of being pregnant and giving birth in the USA was largely good.
• Being honest with each other and talking through things has helped Katie and her husband Andre to get through some tough situations.
• Maternity leave in the USA varies from state to state.
• Realising that your child won´t get to spend much time with one side of their family is hard. But there are ways to stay close, which Katie shares in the episode.

BEST MOMENTS

‘My legal status was kind of up in the air. ´

‘I´ve always felt very much a part of the family.’

‘If you're looking for the positive, you end up in such a stronger relationship.’

‘I don´t necessarily feel the need for all of this stuff.’

Katie Sharp is an artist from Lincolnshire, England, who currently lives in Benicia, California, USA with her husband Andre, son Peter and dog Annabelle.
www.artbyksharp.com
Instagram @artbyksharp

EPISODE RESOURCES

Earlier episode with Katie Sharpe - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/from-flight-attendant-to-artist-in-california-usa-katie/id1724940782?i=1000641095453

ABOUT THE HOST – CLARE KAY

Clare has moved countries many times throughout her life, from China to Taiwan, Nigeria, Zambia, and the USA. She has also travelled the world for various businesses and now wishes to impart her advice to others to save them time, money, and energy.

Clare follows three principles central to her endeavours. First, she looks outward internationally, working with people overseas or of different nationalities. Second, she is obsessed with communication, having learned French, German and Mandarin Chinese. She also teaches English and works as an editor for others’ work. Clare is passionate about making a difference through her coaching in the world of personal development.

CONTACT METHOD

www.kayproofreading.com

www.linkedin.com/in/clarekay

https://www.facebook.com/KayProofreading

Podcast Description

When you move for a new job, to live with someone after a long-distance relationship or to explore the benefits of a new lifestyle, moving countries occurs as an opportunity, but it still might be a bumpy ride. Moving Countries 101 presents a paradox of moving to a new destination, but it being all about the journey: the ongoing experience of having moved countries.

Clare and her guests share the human stories of an ancient undertaking in modern times. Moving countries prompts change, and change provokes being unsettled emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually. On all these fronts, moving countries promotes observation, opportunity, and discovery.

Today, Clare is conversing with Martin Leo Uvizl, a business strategist who lives in different countries during different times of the year. Martin explains how he decided to take the courageous path and created this unusual and exciting lifestyle. He shares the philosophy that enabled him to break away from the restrictions society puts on us and explains how anyone can do the same-

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• These days it is pretty easy to structure your work so that you can live where you want when you want.
• When you put yourself out there and are good everything you need comes to you.
• If you want to be successful, you must be prepared to push the boundaries.
• The more you love and understand people from all cultures the more successful you will be.
• Life, by its very nature, is dangerous so you might as well be courageous and take risks.
• Have a clean heart and tap into your intuition.
• Even when you have a baby it is still possible to have adventures.
• Move with AI, embrace it and use it for good, for betterment.
• Technology helps us to connect, but nothing beats in-person.
• The world needs people who genuinely love others.
• Always be questioning and looking for fresh ways to do things.
• Travel opens your eyes to the fact things can be done differently.

BEST MOMENTS

‘I decided I would rather have a life of adventure than a life of safety. ´

‘You can bring light to life if you live with courage.’

‘You can fix anything in life.’

‘Life is about helping people.’

ABOUT THE GUEST

Martin Leo-Uvizl is a Business Strategist, Partner and Serial Tech Entrepreneur. He works on 3 continents and has been moving countries since working in international business law in Vienna, London and Washington DC.

"Moving countries became my way of life as it keeps my perspectives fresh, keeps me alert and away from comfort, the killer of innovation and adventure - You can just do your thing.

My passion is creating, building and selling technology ventures. AI has made this process even more exciting, creative and efficient. The entrepreneur mindset is turbo-charged with AI. It allows you to do things you could not even dream of a year ago, and suddenly multi-million dollar exits are more feasible than ever."

www.aiscaleupexperts.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-leo-uvizl-8123365a

ABOUT THE HOST – CLARE KAY

Clare has moved countries many times throughout her life, from China to Taiwan, Nigeria, Zambia, and the USA. She has also travelled the world for various businesses and now wishes to impart her advice to others to save them time, money, and energy.

Clare follows three principles central to her endeavours. First, she looks outward internationally, working with people overseas or of different nationalities. Second, she is obsessed with communication, having learned French, German and Mandarin Chinese. She also teaches English and works as an editor for others’ work. Clare is passionate about making a difference through her coaching in the world of personal development.

CONTACT METHOD

www.kayproofreading.com

www.linkedin.com/in/clarekay

https://www.facebook.com/KayProofreading

Podcast Description

When you move for a new job, to live with someone after a long-distance relationship or to explore the benefits of a new lifestyle, moving countries occurs as an opportunity, but it still might be a bumpy ride. Moving Countries 101 presents a paradox of moving to a new destination, but it being all about the journey: the ongoing experience of having moved countries.

Clare and her guests share the human stories of an ancient undertaking in modern times. Moving countries prompts change, and change provokes being unsettled emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually. On all these fronts, moving countries promotes observation, opportunity, and discovery.

In this episode, Clare is in conversation with Grant, who is an international secondary school teacher. He is a serial mover from the UK who got his masters in Poland. He left the UK in 2007 and has lived in France, Saudi Arabia, China and now lives in Malaysia.

Grant comes from Newcastle in the north of England. After London University and the now defunct Webber Douglas drama school, he spent the first ten years of his career as a jobbing actor. Grant then took himself off to film school and did a masters at the Polish National Film School in Lodz. He always wanted to do something with film studies, so after an introduction to international school teaching in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, he found a job teaching film studies at a school in Chengdu in western China. He has been teaching English and film studies in China and more recently in Malaysia for the last 15 years.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

• International schools provide students with an extraordinary outlook on life.
• Malaysia´s national identity is being a melting pot, which means that outsiders are quickly embraced.
• Malaysia has strong religious groups, but people are still strongly integrated with each other.
• Grant lived in different parts of China and enjoyed some places more than others. He talks about the pros and cons of each area.
• Grant travelled to some remote places in China, which is now far more difficult, and had some interesting, in some cases, dangerous experiences. He shares a few in the episode.
• Bear in mind that the immigration rules change regularly. This is especially the case in Malaysia.
• When moving abroad you have to be realistic about your chances of being able to stay there when you are older and can no longer work or fall sick.
• Learning a bit of the language gets you a long way.
• Spending most of your free time with ex-pats is a bit of a cul de sac. It is easy to completely miss out on enjoying the local culture.

BEST MOMENTS

‘People have their gripes and grumbles in Malaysia, but … people are quite happy to be here. ´

‘They do a bilingual international diploma.’

‘You weren´t really sure what you had got yourself into.’

ABOUT THE HOST – CLARE KAY

Clare has moved countries many times throughout her life, from China to Taiwan, Nigeria, Zambia, and the USA. She has also travelled the world for various businesses and now wishes to impart her advice to others to save them time, money, and energy.

Clare follows three principles central to her endeavours. First, she looks outward internationally, working with people overseas or of different nationalities. Second, she is obsessed with communication, having learned French, German and Mandarin Chinese. She also teaches English and works as an editor for others’ work. Clare is passionate about making a difference through her coaching in the world of personal development.

CONTACT METHOD

www.kayproofreading.com

www.linkedin.com/in/clarekay

https://www.facebook.com/KayProofreading

Podcast Description

When you move for a new job, to live with someone after a long-distance relationship or to explore the benefits of a new lifestyle, moving countries occurs as an opportunity, but it still might be a bumpy ride. Moving Countries 101 presents a paradox of moving to a new destination, but it being all about the journey: the ongoing experience of having moved countries.

Clare and her guests share the human stories of an ancient undertaking in modern times. Moving countries prompts change, and change provokes being unsettled emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually. On all these fronts, moving countries promotes observation, opportunity, and discovery.