When we are stressed and anxious, our tendency is to retreat within ourselves and isolate. This is the exact opposite of what we need to do! Developed by Dr. Laura Fleetwood as a doctoral research project, TWIRL is a 4-hour, in-person workshop that tween girls attend with their mom or primary female caregiver. Using the TWIRL imagery and acronym, Laura shares Messy Miracle stories from her own tween & teen years and provides tangible steps for young girls to come out of hiding and TWIRL their way through life.

On this week’s episode, Jill Devine sat down with Missy Wohldmann and her two daughters, Alix and Morgan. Alix will be entering 6th grade this coming school year and Morgan will be entering 5th grade. Missy and her daughters attended the TWIRL workshop and shared their experience with Jill and Laura.

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In our previous episode with Dr. David McDonald, we talked about unicorns and mythical creatures in the Bible. In this week’s episode, our content contains frank discussion about sexual pressures young men face in today's world.

David is a pastor, teacher, and lecturer in colleges and seminaries all over the world. His work with Westwinds Community Church has been featured in The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Time magazine. David was appointed to the first-ever post-doctoral fellowship at George Fox Evangelical Seminary, and continues to integrate spiritual truth with sharp social analysis in his private work as a speculative theologian. In 2019, David founded the Fossores Chapter House, the world’s first headquarters for Christian ministerial innovation, where preachers, leaders, and entrepreneurs gather from all over the world to do their best work.

The previous episodes David was on:

16: Dr. David McDonald Addresses Why Jesus Had To Die

BONUS (16b): Going Deeper With Dr. David McDonald

17: Two Pastors Discuss The Resurrection Of Jesus

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Dr. David McDonald made a return to the podcast to tackle a number of subject matters, including unicorn and mythical creatures in the Bible.

David is a pastor, teacher, and lecturer in colleges and seminaries all over the world. His work with Westwinds Community Church has been featured in The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Time magazine. David was appointed to the first-ever post-doctoral fellowship at George Fox Evangelical Seminary, and continues to integrate spiritual truth with sharp social analysis in his private work as a speculative theologian. In 2019, David founded the Fossores Chapter House, the world’s first headquarters for Christian ministerial innovation, where preachers, leaders, and entrepreneurs gather from all over the world to do their best work.

The previous episodes David was on:

16: Dr. David McDonald Addresses Why Jesus Had To Die

BONUS (16b): Going Deeper With Dr. David McDonald

17: Two Pastors Discuss The Resurrection Of Jesus

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Pastor Chuck Schlie and Ryan Pfendler joined Jill Devine to continue the conversation about the sermon series Messiah is currently in the middle of, The Gospel According To U2.

Chuck and Ryan discussed their initial reaction to the idea of the sermon series and what they learned while preparing for the series.

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Pastor Chuck Schlie and Ryan Pfendler joined Jill Devine to continue the conversation about the sermon series Messiah is currently in the middle of, The Gospel According To U2.

Chuck and Ryan discussed their initial reaction to the idea of the sermon series and what they learned while preparing for the series.

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Pastor Jim Mueller joined Jill Devine for a two-part episode on Normal Goes A Long Way. Jim is the Lead Pastor at Messiah Lutheran Church in St. Charles, Missouri and has been on the podcast several times before.

Messiah St. Charles is in the middle of a sermon series called, The Gospel According To U2.

Jill wanted to get Jim’s take on using “secular” music to reach believers and non-believers. Jim also shared a “secular” song that made an impact on him at the young age of 9-years-old.

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Pastor Jim Mueller joined Jill Devine for a two-part episode on Normal Goes A Long Way. Jim is the Lead Pastor at Messiah Lutheran Church in St. Charles, Missouri and has been on the podcast several times before.

Messiah St. Charles is in the middle of a sermon series called, The Gospel According To U2.

Jill wanted to get Jim’s take on using “secular” music to reach believers and non-believers.

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It’s been a bit since Laura Fleetwood has been on the podcast, but for good reason. She’s been on a 3-year journey going through a doctoral program through Portland Seminary. She will be graduating in May 2024 and will soon be known as Dr. Fleetwood! You can learn more about her journey in Episode 12: Unwrapping The Bible With Dr. Meghan Larissa Good.

Laura sat down with Jill Devine to talk about a recent sermon series Messiah did, called The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry. It was inspired by the book of the same title by John Mark Comer.

The conversation centered around some of the items not discussed in the sermon series. Here are all the messages from The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry series:

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: The Magi | Week 1

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: The Sabbath | Week 2

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: Prayer | Week 3

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: Simplicity | Week 4

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: Generosity | Week 5

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