We're talking about trolling the big water....and the river, this time on the Off Shore Tackle podcast with tournament angler Roy Miller.

We catch up with Roy as he's prefishing for an MWT Tourney on Northern Lake Huron. He describes his program for catching fish in crystal clear water.

Then the conversation turns toward chasing walleye in rivers. While most anglers jig for those fish, Roy prefers to troll.

Miller trolls the Detroit River but says the tactic will work on other rivers as well.

It's part two of our conversation with the "Chairman of the Boards", Bruce Deshano on this edition of the Off Shore Tackle podcast.

We're headed to southern Lake Michigan and the port of St. Joe this time on the Off Shore Tackle podcast.

Captain Mike Boyd of Coldwater Charters talks about early season trolling for salmon and trout, including the difference between copper and lead core line. Mike also explains his set up, including the use of Off Shore OR 12 planers and the bigger SST Pro Mag boards (that he calls a "school bus").

He describes the process of getting a new charter boat ready for the water, why the St. Joe fishery is unique, fishing dirty water...and much more.

The conversation wraps up with Mike talking about his career as an outdoor writer and also a hunting guide.