Dr. Blaisdell is a Neuroscientist and UCLA Professor where he directs the Comparative Cognition Lab. He's also cofounder of the Ancestral Health Society and founder of the Journal of Evolution and Health.

This is a fascinating conversation about cognition and what pigeons can teach us about our own brains.

We also talk about ancestral health, the founding of the Ancestral Health Symposium, how Aaron's lab discovered a pigeon creating art, and the Pigeon Art NFT project that lets the pigeons themselves help fund future research.

• pigeonrat.psych.ucla.edu
• pigeonart.xyz

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