Jumping right in this week!

Malva: villain or victim?
Tom Christie
Bonnie Prince Charlie: Villain or village idiot?
Buck MacKenzie
Rob Cameron
Ezekiel Richardson

side tangent - Lord John: hero all the way, and we demand a LJG spin-off!

Who is everyone's number-1 villain?
Tune in to find out!

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Welcome back, Sassenachs! We're far from finished with the list of dastardly Outlandish villains, so settle in for Part 2!

Geillis Duncan: is she really a villain? 
The Duke of Sandringham
Father Bain
Ulysses! (we spoiled Tamberly)
Stephen Bonnet
Master Raymond (!)
Dougal MacKenzie
Governor Tryon
Gerald Forbes

Part 3 coming up next week!

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First in a mini-series on the Villains of Outlander! Well...are they villains? Are they heroes? DO WE REALLY HAVE TO CHOOSE??

Listen in as we welcome our first listener special guest, Tamberly Bloodgood! Tamberly can be found on Instagram @outlander_mo.chridhe where she makes the most gorgeous edits from the show! That's where we got the inspiration for this conversation, so we knew we wanted her to join us.

Drinks:
Tamberly - Four Roses Single Barrel and sweet tea
Terri - Metallica's Blackened Whiskey
Ivy - Widow Jane

In this episode, we jump right into talking about Outlander's main characters: Frank, Claire and Jamie! Is Frank a villain? Is Claire always a hero? Does hero-worship of Jamie blind us to his lesser traits? Find out as we deep-dive.

Fan fic mentions (available on archiveofourown.org  / registration required but free): "Wait" by catrinwrites
"Second Wife" by BetweenScenes

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Drinks of the day:
Terri - iced coffee with Blackened whiskey by Metallica
Ivy: Barefoot white wine spritzer

This week we branch off into the land of fan fiction, the end of the WGA Strike (Writers Guild of America), our hopes that the SAG-AFTRA strike will end soon as well, and some opinions on aging in Hollywood and the related use of AI in film.

The fanfics mentioned (NSFW, both rated Expicit; you've been warned!):
First Year https://archiveofourown.org/works/25976704/chapters/63150934
Wait  https://archiveofourown.org/works/26446402

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Ivy is having....WINE. Wait...WHAT?!
Listen in and you'll find out quickly just why she'd had her fill of bourbon before this episode was recorded.

Tales and more tales of Bourbon & Beyond 2023. Ivy met vampires [Ian Somerhalder and Paul Wesley of Brothers Bond Bourbon], Wayne Newton, and the Penguin [Nolan North]!
Tangents on fan fic, Build-A-Bear and lavender...check out "First Year" a Modern alternate universe fan fic! You'll have to sign up for a (free) membership at archiveofourown.org

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This week the podcast is on a break. Please enjoy this tangent that didn't make the cut back when we were talking about episode 705, "Singapore"

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WHAT?! ANOTHER Sasnak City event? Why yes, yes indeed. Terri stayed in Kansas City for 10 days and met 9 cast members from The Last Kingdom.

Ivy & Terri agree,  we NEED more Men in Kilts! Four episodes was not nearly enough.

Whiskey picks:
Terri - Bulleit Rye in a highball (sparkling water and lemon)
Ivy - Uncle Nearest single barrel, a gift from a coworker of Ivy's

Why was Sam so oddly obsessed with lubing up during this episode?
Ivy is convinced Sam could be down to get tattoos. We'll keep you posted.
This episode was so rushed. They absolutely could have created a 5th episode (with the mud bath part alone). Or with Wild Kingdom, New Zealand edition.

Despite Terri's offer to accompany Ivy, they will not be doing the bungee swing or other height adventures in New Zealand.

Stay tuned to see what we cook up to get us through Droughtlander!

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This week's episode starts out with Terri's review of the amazing, incredible 1-day event "The Social" through Sasnak City, with Sam Heughan, Charles Vandervaart and Duncan Lacroix on August 26th. If you want to know more, and have a chance to attend a future special event like this, you have to become a ticketholder: http://www.sasnakcity.com

Drinks picks:
Ivy - Chardonnay (yes, you read that right!)
Terri - Old Fashioned

Episode 3 discussion: bee keeping, cow milking in business-casual attire, and Ivy's seafood allergy really sucks.

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