For the 3rd year in a row, we talk with Menace about his artistic evolution. Menace is a prolific and compelling rap artist. When we first met him in 2019 he already had over 100 songs on YouTube. He performed for the first time on the Own It stage in 2020.
Since then he has become an Own It regular. He always says yes when we invite him to the stage. His love of music has been a beacon through dark nights of the soul.

"It's not the expression of the emotion, it's the lack of control that I don't want," Phil.
"Well, if you could control it, then you'd probably keep it under lock all the time, cuz you've got things to do, and they're inconvenient" Sarah.
A conversation between two people with possibly the most inconvenient relationship...ah the irony.
Also, have you noticed, the most passionate male outbursts often occur during the big game? Uncontrollably! Spontaneously!
Ah the irony...
Stay tuned for part 2, we are gonna do some legit research into this question.

Sarah gets mad at Phil for a few things i.e. saying their relationship is non-linear, and preventing her from "dating." They discuss living in different worlds, and the challenge of expressing different layers of Sarah and Phil which could be called the "track stack" if you're a recording engineer. So, how to live a domestic life, and express the other tracks. The answer seems to be, make the leap and keep going cuz the grass isn't greener on the other side.
"There's still some mystery, even for us, about what we are," Sarah.