In this podcast episode, Mike, a former college basketball star at Birmingham Southern and infinite banking specialist at Nowlin and Associates, shares his journey from athletics to finance. He discusses his upbringing in Cincinnati, Ohio, and the influence of his parents' careers in sales and entrepreneurship. Mike delves into the concept of infinite banking, explaining its benefits, such as uninterrupted compounding and leveraging cash value. The conversation also covers whole life insurance, the importance of delayed gratification, and financial literacy. Mike emphasizes the value of long-term financial planning and provides practical insights into wealth management strategies.

Thomas interviews Eric Schaefer, a young real estate entrepreneur who transitioned from wholesaling to becoming a real estate agent. Eric shares his journey from high school, military service, and college to finding his passion in real estate. He discusses the challenges and successes in wholesaling and flipping houses, the importance of focus, and the benefits of starting a business in your 20s. Eric emphasizes hiring a coach, diversifying investments, and strategic financial planning. He also shares his future goals, including building a passive income business and expanding into multifamily properties and private money lending.

This episode is Part 2 of Thomas's interview with Cliff Sims, a former White House staffer and author of "Team of Vipers" and "The Darkness Has Not Overcome." Sims discusses his new book, which connects political experiences with spiritual lessons from the Bible. He shares insights from his time in the White House and the challenges of writing and publishing his book. The conversation also covers political topics such as U.S.-China relations, the role of government agencies, and the persecution of believers in American life. Sims emphasizes the importance of storytelling and vividly describes his experiences to engage readers.