Currently on tour together, John Mark McMillan and Zach Bolen (frontman of the band Citizens) join the podcast to discuss faith, life on the road, songwriting, personal testimonies, and what being real with God looks and feels like to them. Many people interact with their songs as "worship tunes," but they don’t fit the Contemporary Christian Music mold and for various reasons, these guys aren't setting out to write worship songs. Throughout this episode you’ll hear their songs intertwined through the whole thing.

Also, host, Joey Svendsen deems John Mark a saint, Zach and Joey recount their stint as a comedic duo, and John Mark gives a theory on why Generation X may gravitate toward the 80s music sound as they age.

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[Part 2 with Andrew Schwab, releasing soon, will be a deep-dive into the story of all things Project 86: Subscribe to Roster Music Club Podcast so you don't miss it]

Andrew Schwab just completed his first novel "OMNI." In this book, Andrew explores society's relationship with metaphysics, AI, and media by providing a mind-bending journey through a fictional civilization in the "not so distant" future. On this episode, Andrew shares a bit about the imaginary world found in the pages of his novel, the reasons behind writing it and his passionate ambition to continue writing novels and recording new Project86 albums that are thematically linked to his dystopian tales.

Over the course of this conversation, Andrew, along with host Joey Svendsen, discuss the future of AI and the potential threats it could pose to mankind. Andrew provides insight into the impact AI will have on younger generations and how they relate to true art. He also argues that humanity isn't counting the cost of technological development, and he articulates how one of the most impactful costs could be humanity becoming less human.

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[this episode is brought to you by Hayne Griffin, Stoy Prioleau, Joey Svendsen]

Joey brings up something he read about a pair of conjoined twins, Stoy thought they were still called Siamese twins, and once again this podcast proves its lack of "political correctness" in handling various issues. Stoy points out certain types of people who can't help in fostering societal unity, Hayne educates us on other systems of prejudice that likely won't make sense to Americans, and the three friends lament and laugh about it all.

Video that Stoy referred to is RIGHT HERE.

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Michelle Van Loon was "getting around," doing drugs and acting 'a fool as a Jewish teenager but when a friend introduced and evangelized her to Jesus (may or may not have been over some weed), her life has never been the same. Michelle, author of numerous books, recently wrote "Downsizing: Letting Go of Evangelicalism's Nonessentials," and joins Joey to discuss the contents. Could "downsizing" be the only hope for unity in the church? Among the many topics discussed, the two talk whether "spiritual authority" has to go, what makes a pastor a pastor, Joey's former zeal for Mark Driscoll, how the church has made an idol of the nuclear family, and the silly notion that deconstruction is usually a bad thing.

Synopsis of book: Michelle Van Loon came to faith in Jesus as a Jewish teenager and embraced the first Christian community she found: evangelicals. Over the next fifty years, she enthusiastically worshiped and worked in a wide variety of evangelical groups. Looking back on those experiences today, Van Loon treasures the things that truly deepened her faith. At the same time, she laments the accumulation of baggage—religious ideas and practices that were unhelpful at best, and harmful at worst. Unlike many who have given up on evangelicalism altogether, Van Loon is committed to saving what’s worthwhile in the evangelical faith tradition, and she invites others to join her. Simultaneously critical and hopeful, Downsizing encourages readers to reflect on their own experience with evangelicalism, evaluate the movement’s legacy, and participate in shaping its future.

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My dad went to be with the Lord at around 9PM on Tuesday night of last week. This episode is a reading of the eulogy i gave at my dad's memorial service and also includes a replay of an episode I did with my dad, on this podcast, about his lived experience of helping me through my mental health crisis 6 years ago.

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[The episode has three friends in it: Joey Svendsen, Amy Alderman, and Hayne Griffin and Stoy Prioleau]

Joey stands up for himself when a peer calls him a "fake pastor" for not having time to engage in a conversation, uncharacteristically responding to this guy with a bit of abrasiveness. Joey ponders with his friends whether the confrontation was necessary, helpful or good. Amy, Hayne, Stoy and Joey discuss confronting others as well as their personal comfort levels with times when it's necessary for them to do the confronting.

When close relationships go awry, Joey articulates why solidarity and support from others feels like a need. Amy shares why she believes some people are garbage and are deserving of being ghosted, Hayne processes confrontations the same way he processes mowing the lawn, and Stoy recounts a lesson that stuck with him, when he learned to listen more and speak less.

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[The episode has three friends in it: Joey Svendsen, Amy Alderman, and Hayne Griffin]

Joey read a book that captures the American history of adolescent girls' commitment to having the best possible body. You can check out "The Body Project: An Intimate History of American Girls" here.

With some of the book's contents as the context, Joey, Hayne and Amy talk through women's arduous struggle toward gender equality and how far along society has come, while Joey now having read this book, admits ignorance to many aspects of the challenge for women.

Amy opens up about some personal body image issues, personally relating to the societal research spelled out in this particular book. Joey and Hayne try to explain why they are not sexually attracted to 20 year olds and Amy gives her best shot at explaining why she thinks they are not.

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