Brandon Sanderson and Dan Wells get together to talk about the many fascinating aspects of post apocalyptic worlds and why we are drawn to write about them and talk about them.

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Chapters
(0:00) - The Many Planets of the Apes
(1:51) - The Odd Success of the franchise
(4:07) - Overcoming a Legacy
(7:13) - A Miracle Movie
(9:40) - The New Story Telling
(13:45) - The Novella its all based on
(14:13) - Post Apocalyptic in General
(15:33) - Hard to Swallow Story Pills
(16:53) - Waterworld
(18:27) - Fallout Talk
(23:27) - Helldivers 2
(24:20) - Our Fascination With Post-Apocalypse
(28:17) - Brandon's Video Game Dream
(30:00) - Cyperpunk Being Trapped