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  • Why Total Cost of Risk Wins in a Softening Market - Part 2

    Why Total Cost of Risk Wins in a Softening Market - Part 2
    Jan 30 2026
    In this episode of Power Producer Shop Talk, host David Carothers delivers a masterclass on navigating the shift from a hard to a soft market, emphasizing that the time to prepare is now. With reinsurance renewals signaling a softening, David warns that the easy "price shopping" wins of the hard market are disappearing, and producers must pivot to value-based selling to displace incumbents who are now delivering good news (rate decreases). David also breaks down the Total Cost of Risk (TCOR) conversation, explaining why it is the ultimate differentiator for accounts in the $100k-$250k premium range. He details how to uncover "hidden" costs like active vs. passive retained losses and why many businesses are overpaying by acting as their own insurance company without getting the credit for it. Key Highlights: The Market Pivot: Hard to Soft David explains that while the message remains consistent, the delivery must change as we move from a hard market (where incumbents deliver bad news) to a soft market (where they deliver rate decreases). Producers must "sew their seeds" now by cleaning up accounts and focusing on Total Cost of Risk to lock in clients before the next hard cycle hits. Total Cost of Risk (TCOR) Explained For producers intimidated by financial jargon, David simplifies TCOR. It’s not just premium—it’s the sum of insurance costs, retained losses, and risk management expenses. He explains that using the word "cost" instead of "price" or "premium" instantly elevates the conversation and positions you as a strategic partner rather than a vendor. Active vs. Passive Retained Losses David dives into the nuance of retained losses. An active retained loss is a conscious decision (e.g., a high deductible or choosing not to buy cyber coverage). A passive retained loss is an unexpected hit (e.g., an uncovered claim due to an exclusion). He shares a story of a contractor paying all claims under $5k out of pocket without getting any deductible credit—a massive opportunity for a savvy producer to step in and structure a proper program. Overcoming Obstacles with Creativity David shares a personal example of how he handles Department of Defense (DoD) contractors. Since he lacks the security clearance to inspect classified manufacturing areas, he uses a service called Yellowbird to hire ex-military professionals with active clearances to perform the loss control inspections. This creative problem-solving eliminates a major barrier to entry that stops most competitors in their tracks. The $100k-$250k Sweet Spot While TCOR works for larger accounts, David argues that the $100k-$250k premium space is the "fertile ground" where this conversation is most effective. These businesses are often large enough to have complex risks but small enough that they haven't been introduced to sophisticated risk management concepts by their current broker. Connect with: David Carothers LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes
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    19 m
  • When Growth Breaks You Before it Builds You with Dan Sachkowsky

    When Growth Breaks You Before it Builds You with Dan Sachkowsky
    Jan 28 2026
    In this episode of the Power Producers Podcast, host David Carothers sits down with Dan Sachkowsky, a business growth expert and founder of Big D Coaching. Recorded on location in Florida, this raw and unfiltered conversation traces Dan’s roller-coaster journey from growing up in "the hood" of New Jersey to building and selling three companies for over $30 million—and losing everything in between. They dive deep into the trap of the "hustle culture," why most businesses are unsellable because the owner is the bottleneck, and how to transition from an operator to a true CEO. Whether you run an insurance agency or a service-based business, this episode is a blueprint for scaling without burnout. Key Highlights: The Bon Jovi Moment & The Bankruptcy Dan shares his powerful origin story. At 15, seeing Jon Bon Jovi's house challenged his father's limiting beliefs about wealth. Motivated by books like Rich Dad Poor Dad, Dan started his first business at 17 and made $3.8 million by age 24. However, the 2008 crash wiped him out, leading to bankruptcy. He explains how hiring a coach at 25 was the pivot point that allowed him to rebuild even bigger. Operator vs. Owner: Escaping the Bottleneck Most business owners think working harder equals more success, but Dan argues this leads to burnout and a business that cannot exist without them. They discuss the necessity of building systems and processes that allow the business to run while the owner steps back to focus on strategy and lifestyle. Employees vs. Teams Dan emphasizes a critical mindset shift: You don't have employees; you have a team. He and David discuss why hiring the cheapest labor off Indeed is a recipe for failure. True scaling comes from building a culture where people feel valued and part of a mission, not just a line item on a P&L. The "Show, Don't Tell" Era David and Dan discuss the shifting landscape of marketing. A static website with stock photos no longer works. To win in 2026, you must build a personal brand through video and social proof. David reiterates his commitment to "showing" his work by documenting his path to $1M in new revenue, rather than just talking about theory. Generational Wealth & Mindset The duo reflects on the differences between their generation's "grind" mentality and the younger generation's approach to leverage and passive income. They discuss how modern entrepreneurs are often involved in multiple ventures, taking smaller cuts of bigger pies to mitigate risk and maximize freedom. Connect with: David Carothers LinkedIn Dan Sachkowsky LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp DanSachkowsky.com Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes
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    1 h y 3 m
  • Why Total Cost of Risk Wins in a Softening Market - Part 1

    Why Total Cost of Risk Wins in a Softening Market - Part 1
    Jan 23 2026
    In this episode of Power Producer Shoptalk, host David Carothers kicks off the new year with a deep dive into the shifting dynamics of the reinsurance market and what producers need to do to prepare for a softening market. He emphasizes that the "bad news" hard market—where price shopping is rampant—is giving way to a "good news" soft market, where incumbents are harder to displace. David also outlines his aggressive goal to write $1 million in new business revenue in 2026, promising to "show, not tell" by documenting every step of the process. The core of this episode focuses on the Total Cost of Risk (TCOR) sales conversation: how to have it, why it works best in the $100k-$250k premium space, and why getting a Letter of Engagement before going to market is non-negotiable for serious producers. Key Highlights: The Shift from Hard to Soft Market David discusses the recent reinsurance renewals and the early signs of a softening market. He warns producers that the strategies used during the hard market (competing on price when incumbents deliver bad news) will no longer work. In a soft market, incumbents deliver rate decreases, making it harder to get appointments. Now is the time to "sew your seeds" and pivot your messaging. The "Show, Don't Tell" 2026 Challenge David announces his personal goal to write $1 million in new business revenue in 2026. He commits to documenting the entire journey—prospecting, meetings, and closing—in real-time, shifting his content focus back to the trenches of Florida Risk Partners to prove that his methods work in today's environment. Mastering the Total Cost of Risk (TCOR) Conversation This episode is a masterclass on the TCOR sales process. David explains why he never goes to market without a signed Letter of Engagement on middle-market accounts. He breaks down the ideal premium sweet spot ($100k-$250k) where this conversation is most effective, noting that accounts in this range are often hearing about TCOR and broker selection for the first time. Qualifying the Decision Maker David shares a critical soft-skill tactic for identifying the true decision maker without offending your point of contact. Instead of bluntly asking "Are you the decision maker?", he suggests asking: "Is there anyone else who is typically part of the decision-making process that we should include in our next meeting?" This question preserves relationships while ensuring you aren't wasting time pitching to someone who can't sign the check. Stop "Quoting and Hoping" The episode challenges the traditional "quote and hope" strategy of waiting 90 days out to shop a renewal. David argues that this method commoditizes the producer. Instead, he advocates for a consultative approach that secures the client's commitment before doing the work, using a Letter of Engagement to validate the relationship and take control of the market. Connect with: David Carothers LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes
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    21 m
  • Profiling, Preparation and Persuasion with Don Weber

    Profiling, Preparation and Persuasion with Don Weber
    Jan 21 2026
    In this episode of the Power Producers Podcast, host David Carothers interviews Don Weber of DR Weber Coaching. Don’s background reads like an international spy thriller—from selling diamonds in Antwerp to conducting intelligence operations for the U.S. and French governments. He joins the show to discuss how the skills he learned in those high-stakes environments translate to elite sales performance and corporate training. They dive into the art of profiling C-Suite executives before a meeting, the psychology of manipulation vs. persuasion, and why Don believes chasing money and power is ultimately unfulfilling. If you want to learn how to read people like an intelligence operative and communicate with absolute confidence, this episode is a must-listen. Key Highlights: From Diamonds to Intelligence Operative Don Weber shares his fascinating journey from being a commercial insurance broker to a diamond trader in Antwerp, which eventually served as his cover for intelligence work. He reveals how a background of "getting into trouble" made him a perfect recruit for government operations that required him to live under assumed identities in dangerous territories. Profiling the C-Suite Drawing on his intelligence background, Don explains the importance of building a psychological profile of your prospect before you ever step into the room. He and David discuss how to research a CEO or CFO—looking beyond just company stats to understand their personal motivations, lifestyle (e.g., home value, charitable giving), and risk tolerance to tailor the perfect pitch. The "Root Cause" of Sales Success Don and David agree that most salespeople fail because they focus on the product (insurance policies) rather than the root cause of the client's problem. Whether it's a dirty workers' comp mod or a lack of safety culture, identifying and fixing the underlying issue is the key to winning the account and delivering true value. Communication is the Ultimate Skill While hard skills are important, Don argues that communication is the ceiling on your potential. He shares how he helps corporate executives polish high-stakes presentations and master the art of engagement, ensuring that their message lands with impact—whether they are speaking to a board of directors or a room full of politicians. The Empty Cup of Materialism Having lived a life full of danger, money, and power, Don offers a sobering perspective on success. He warns against the trap of materialism, noting that many of the wealthiest people he knows are also the loneliest. True fulfillment, he argues, comes from helping others and living with purpose, not just accumulating "stuff." Connect with: David Carothers LinkedIn Don Weber LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp Dr Weber Coaching Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes
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    52 m
  • AI, Authenticity and the Future of Elite Production with Craig Bender

    AI, Authenticity and the Future of Elite Production with Craig Bender
    Jan 14 2026
    In this episode of the Power Producers Podcast, David Carothers welcomes back Craig Bender, founder of INSUREU2, INC. What started as a marketing venture has evolved into a comprehensive ecosystem for insurance professionals, culminating in the launch of a new AI software designed to provide real-time guidance to producers. David and Craig discuss the noise in the industry regarding "coaches vs. doers," the pitfalls of hiring Virtual Assistants (VAs) without proper systems, and the difference between static chatbots and dynamic AI learning models. David also drops a major announcement about his personal production goals for 2026, pledging to document his journey to writing $1 million in new business revenue to prove that his strategies work in the current market. Key Topics Discussed: Insure You 2 AI Craig reveals his new software solution that sits on a producer's desktop and provides guidance in 0.5 seconds during live calls. Whether it is objection handling, cross-selling opportunities, or immediate quoting eligibility, the AI acts as an expert whisperer (or a "digital David Carothers") on the agent's shoulder. David’s 2026 "Show, Don't Tell" Challenge Tired of "keyboard warriors" and coaches who no longer produce, David announces his goal to write $1,000,000 in new business revenue in 2026. He plans to film and document every step of the process—from the cold calls to the closing meetings—celebrating every $100k milestone with a rare Cohiba Spectre cigar. The Virtual Assistant Dilemma The duo discusses why many agencies fail with VAs. Craig argues that VAs are often hired without the necessary guardrails or systems. He explains how his new AI solution pairs with VAs to monitor sentiment and compliance in real-time, ensuring they stay within authorized parameters. Operational vs. Sales AI David breaks down how he currently uses AI in his agency for operations (Refocus for renewals), content (Synthesia), and knowledge management (Delphi), while Craig contrasts this with his software's focus on live, front-end sales execution and sentiment analysis. Global Insurance Solutions Craig discusses taking Insure You 2 international, with operations in London and Asia, aiming to build a tech stack that is universally applicable across the global insurance industry. Connect with: David Carothers LinkedIn Craig Bender LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp INSUREU2, INC Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes
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    58 m
  • From Imposter Syndrome to Intentional Growth with Heather McKinnon

    From Imposter Syndrome to Intentional Growth with Heather McKinnon
    Jan 7 2026
    In this episode of the Power Producers Podcast, host David Carothers interviews Heather McKinnon, a "Protege" contestant from Horizon Insurance Services in Columbus, Ohio. Heather shares her atypical journey into the insurance world, transitioning from a background in biochemistry and CPG brand management to joining her husband's agency. They discuss the chaotic reality of balancing family life (including holiday stress and broken appliances) with the demands of being a producer, why "solving and serving" is the most effective form of selling, and how new producers can leverage referral networks to build trust before they even walk in the room. Key Highlights: The "Atypical" Path to Insurance Heather describes her background in biochemistry and brand management before being "recruited" by her husband to join the family agency. While she jokingly calls herself atypical, David points out that almost no one plans to go into insurance—most successful producers stumble into it from other careers. Solving and Serving IS Selling Heather admits she doesn't like "selling" in the traditional sense but loves solving problems. David validates this, noting that the best producers are often educators and problem solvers who don't need to use high-pressure tactics because they lead with value and solutions. The Power of Walking Away David shares a detailed story about a prospect with messy data and four other agents involved. By setting boundaries, demanding transparency (unredacted policies), and being willing to walk away, he flipped the power dynamic and won the account. This serves as a masterclass for new producers on why scarcity creates value. Time Management Sprints David breaks down his 50/10 rule for productivity: working with intense focus for 50 minutes (no phone, no email) and then taking a 10-minute break. This simple system eliminates distractions and ensures that no client waits longer than an hour for a response. Building a Referral Ecosystem For new producers battling imposter syndrome, David advises building a referral network with B2B salespeople (payroll, IT, etc.) who are calling on the same accounts. By establishing regular accountability meetings and sharing target lists, producers can generate warm leads and bypass the cold-calling grind. Connect with: David Carothers LinkedIn Heather McKinnon LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp Horizon Insurance Services Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes
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    1 h y 2 m
  • Becoming the Protege with Rich Bales

    Becoming the Protege with Rich Bales
    Jan 2 2026
    In the tenth installment of the "Becoming the Protégé" series on Power Producers Shop Talk, host David Carothers sits down with Rich Bales of the Avanti Group to discuss his journey from medical device sales to becoming an agency owner and contestant on The Protégé Season 3. Rich shares his entrepreneurial story, detailing why he left a high-stress corporate career to build a business with more freedom and control. They also dive into the realities of starting in personal lines versus commercial, the power of risk management over selling policies, and why Rich believes his background in medical sales gives him a unique edge in targeting healthcare accounts. Key Highlights: From Corporate Grind to Agency Ownership Rich explains his transition from a demanding career in medical device sales to launching his own independent agency. Motivated by a desire for better work-life balance and tax advantages, he left behind the "golden handcuffs" of corporate quotas to build something sustainable for his family. Starting Where You Want to Finish David and Rich discuss the common advice given to new producers to start in personal lines. David challenges this notion, arguing that there is zero correlation between selling a $500 auto policy and closing a $25,000 revenue commercial account. Rich agrees, noting that while personal lines provided "at-bats," his goal is to move entirely into the commercial space. Risk Management vs. Selling Insurance The duo emphasizes that the most successful producers don't sell insurance—they sell risk management. David shares his strategy of opening meetings by explicitly stating, "This is not an insurance conversation," focusing instead on solving operational problems that naturally lead to the sale. Leveraging Past Experience Rich discusses his plan to target the healthcare vertical, utilizing his deep understanding of hospital administration and medical groups from his previous career. He and David explore how private equity is consolidating the space, creating opportunities for agents who can offer sophisticated risk management solutions rather than just transactional policies. The "Protege" Mindset When asked why he joined The Protégé, Rich admits he wants to be the "dumbest guy in the room" to maximize his learning. He views the competition not just as a contest, but as a priceless opportunity to steal best practices from top industry leaders and implement them immediately to scale his agency. Connect with: David Carothers LinkedIn Rich Bales LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp The Avanti Group Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes
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  • Winning in Catastrophe Exposed Markets with Terry McLean

    Winning in Catastrophe Exposed Markets with Terry McLean
    Dec 31 2025
    In this episode of the Power Producers Podcast, host David Carothers interviews Terrence McLean, Co-Founder and CEO of SageSure. Terry joins the show from Silicon Valley to discuss how SageSure has grown into a powerhouse in the catastrophe-exposed property market. They dive deep into the philosophy of running toward risk when others run away, the critical importance of physical inspections, and why independent agents remain the ultimate experts in distribution. Key Highlights: The "Go Left" Philosophy Terry explains why SageSure enters markets that national carriers flee. While others retrench, SageSure finds fertile ground in difficult territories by understanding the risk better than anyone else and "going left" when the industry goes right. Boots on the Ground: The Inspection Mandate Despite advancements in technology, Terry emphasizes that AI and aerial imagery are not yet ready to replace physical inspections. He details why SageSure relies on boots-on-the-ground to verify insurance-to-value (ITV) and condition, ensuring they only write the best risks to protect their capacity. Carriers Can't Be Everything Terry argues that insurance carriers cannot be "all things to all people." Their job is to manage capital and margin. He highlights that independent agents are the necessary experts who must navigate the market on behalf of the consumer to find the right fit when a carrier's appetite is full. The "Parting Gift": Market Stabilization Terry offers a positive forecast for the future, predicting double-digit price decreases in reinsurance by 2026. This signals that the worst of the hard market is likely behind us, which should eventually lead to primary price stabilization for consumers. Top Tier Agency Partners When asked what separates a top-tier partner from the rest, Terry points to relationships and trust. SageSure aims to be a "top 3" carrier for their partners, and in return, they prioritize agents who maintain open communication and consistent volume. Connect with: David Carothers LinkedIn Terrence McLean LinkedIn Kyle Houck LinkedIn Visit Websites: Power Producer Base Camp SageSure Killing Commercial Crushing Content Power Producers Podcast Policytee The Dirty 130 The Extra 2 Minutes
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    43 m