Ayse engages with migration scholars Dr. Nerina Weiss and Dr. Ragna Lillevik to explore the power dynamics that allow resettlement countries to "cherry-pick" refugees. The discussion also uncovers the meticulous steps refugees navigate for resettlement with examples from Norway. Finally, the trio try to gaze into the uncertain future of resettlement. Will this act of international solidarity hold against the political and humanitarian challenges on the horizon?

Ayse welcomes special guest Ali Mohammed who recounts his hazardous journey fleeing Somalia, navigating through Africa, and the perilous Mediterranean crossing to reach Malta. Ali's firsthand account provides a stark portrayal of the unpredictable journey refugees undertake to seek protection on their own, and compare this with his UNHCR-organized resettlement from Malta to Norway. Gain insight into the resilience of refugees, as well as the challenges that persist post resettlement.

In this illuminating episode, Ayse and East-Africa expert Dr. Ingunn Bjørkhaug discuss why seeking resettlement can feel like a competition. Ingunn gives examples from the East-African context and explains why refugees take a gamble when they share stories about suffering to secure a spot in resettlement programs. We also discuss the public perception of resettled refugees as 'the genuine refugees,' and why the truth is more complex.