Have you ever been through a period of your life where you felt like nothing was going right? And during that period, did you think: "Oh my god, what is WRONG with me?? I have to get out of this as fast as I can!!" Well, Nancy's been there. But after talking with Katherine May, author of the book Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times, she learned that these difficult, dark periods are just a part of life. And it's the grace that we show ourselves as we get through them that really matters.

Listen to the full episode to hear:

- Nancy's personal relationship with wintering.

- Nancy's journey to accept wintering as an important stage of life.

- Nancy's conversation with author Katherine May about the importance of rest in difficult times.

- Tips for folks with HFA who may be going through a winter themselves.

Learn more about Katherine May:

- Go to  https://katherine-may.co.uk/

- Buy Katherine's book, Wintering: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times on her website, or pre-order her forthcoming book, Enchantment: Awakening Wonder in an Anxious Age, out in March 2023. 

- Listen to Katherine's podcast, The Wintering Sessions, wherever you get your podcasts.

- Follow Katherine on Twitter @_katherine_may_

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