A few years ago, after I quit my job and decided to go self employed or freelance or whatever, I fell into the trap of trying to start a bit of a hustle which - I still think was a great idea – but was still with a mindset of doing things in “work” mode - how to start something and grow it. It was a bit of a fun concept but I was way too serious about it. It wasn’t where my head was at or where it should have been at and it was only through some fairly grumpy and anxiety filled days, weeks and months, that I started to see that. I mentioned that I still think the idea as great, and I do – it was also about mindset. So what I did, with a massive, inspirational push from my partner, was to flip the idea around and do it in a way that was way more fun and involved a bunch of people that I’ve been listening to since I was a kid: talking to musicians about their mindset and how they’ve navigated their way through life, Yes, everything evolved into this podcast. If this isn’t fun, then I’ll go and stand on the naughty step reserved for big fibbers.

Anne Tong and Bryce Barsten of Chinese American Bear are my wonderful guests today and, if my dodgy research – just for once - doesn’t let me down, have their own stories around serious and fun and how those two things play out for our creativity and sanity.

They have just released their latest single, Heartbreaker, which is a magnificent slice of 60’s nostalgic, lo-fi pop and I just have the perfect TV soundtrack for it.

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I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.

Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.

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