In today's interview, we shift focus from our usual lineup of business and marketing leaders to engage in conversation with Stephen Richer, Maricopa County recorder now in his fourth year in office. While Stephen’s initial 2020 campaign platform was to “Make the Recorder’s Office Boring Again”, his life before and after entering politics has been anything but.

Stephen’s unique story includes turns navigating corporate law, self-starting his own businesses, entering the world of politics, and, as you'll discover, becoming something of a branding and communications expert in the process. Our discussion spans his formative years, his early triumphs and setbacks, his experiences navigating political turbulence, and the value of bringing authenticity, ownership, and a competitive spirit to every role he undertakes.

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(02:00) Stephen's Childhood (Mormon country. OCD. Fantasy novels)

(08:30) How Education Informs Your Path (Pre-modernist lit. Finding purpose. Falling in love)

(20:00) The Entrepreneur Gene (In your blood? First business launch. Legal troubles)

(30:30) Early Failure Creates Long-Term Success (Trials by fire. Repairing relationships)

(38:00) Launching Multiple Businesses (GatherDC. Raspberry expirations. 90's themed bar)

(49:00) Finding Meaning Through Work (Loving work at 70. Weighing risk. Parenting)

(56:00) Good Lawyers and Good Leaders (Leaving law. Learning on the job. First run for office)

(1:09:40) What is a County Recorder? (Nuts and bolts. What's more important than winning)

(1:16:00) Political Data Science 101 (Saints, sinners, and salvageables. What works?)

(1:26:20) Authentic Branding (Being yourself. Watered down brands + politicians. Catfishing)

(1:34:00) Navigating Political Drama in AZ (Make the recorder's office boring again)

(1:42:00) Electing Entrepreneurs to Office (ROI = good democracy? Ignoring the noise. Wins)

(1:53:30) Improving Communications (Building confidence through vulnerability)

(2:03:00) Life in the Political Crosshairs (Advice for young people. Running again)

(2:11:15) How to be an Effective Leader (Am I doing a good job? Weaknesses)

(2:20:00) Final Words of Wisdom (Navigating leadership and life with authenticity)