Developer relations have gone through quite an evolution over the years. In this reissued episode, Corey talks with Jeremy Meiss, former Director of DevRel and Community at CircleCI, about how DevRel has transitioned from a focus on conference appearances to a more strategic alignment with business objectives. Corey and Jeremy also discuss navigating career complexities during economic downturns, emphasizing the importance of maintaining relevance. They also touch on fostering open communication within organizations and the enduring value of personal interactions in professional communities.

Show Highlights:

• (1:39) How CircleCI is using DevRel to helping clients go from developer’s laptops to production safely and sanely
• (6:23) What DevRel means to Jeremy and why it’s a problem that most people can’t define it
• (12:40) Why saying DevRel is part of product ignores much of what makes both roles unique
• (15:36) Combating burnout from being able to perform you’re role but not feeling connected to what the company actually does
• (21:30) How Jeremy sees DevRel evolving

About Jeremy:

Jeremy is the former Director of DevRel & Community at CircleCI, formerly at Solace, Auth0, and XDA. He is active in the DevRel Community, and is a co-creator of DevOpsPartyGames.com. A lover of all things coffee, community, open source, and tech, he is also house-broken, and (generally) plays well with others.

Links Referenced:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremymeiss/
• Twitter: IAmJerdog - Jeremy’s @DevOpsAms https://twitter.com/iamjerdog?lang=en

Sponsor:

Panoptica: https://www.panoptica.app/

Kyler Middleton, a Senior Principal Engineer at Veradigm and co-host of the Day Two Cloud podcast, joins Corey in this Screaming in the Cloud episode to talk about how tech careers are changing and the big impact of AI on starting in tech. Kyler, who once wanted to be a librarian, tells her story of becoming a tech pro. She highlights the importance of learning and sharing what you know, especially in tech. Corey and Kyler also get into how AI is changing the game for new techies and what that means if you're starting. Kyler's take on using and teaching tech offers some really helpful tips for anyone looking to get into or move up in the tech world.

Show Highlights:

(00:00) - Introduction

(01:49) - Kyler describes her multiple roles

(03:21) - Discussion on the realities of 'Day Two' operations in cloud environments

(07:38) - Insights into technical debt and the concept of 'Day Two' in DevOps

(13:54) - The importance of sharing knowledge and learning in public to benefit others in the tech community

(20:07) - The use and limitations of AI in professional settings

(26:41) - Debate on the overreliance on AI technology in decision-making processes and its potential consequences

(32:05) - Closing remarks & where listeners can connect with Kyler

About Kyler:

Kyler grew up in rural Western Nebraska, fixing neighboring farmers’ computers in exchange for brownies and Rice Krispies. Then she was going to be a librarian to help people find the information they need. Then she discovered computers were a real job, and more than just a fix for her munchies, and she's now been a systems, network, call center, and security engineer, and is now a DevOps lead, and software engineer. She speaks at any conference that will have her, hosts Day Two Cloud podcast from Packet Pushers, and writes up cool projects with approachable language and pictures as part of her Medium series, Let's Do DevOps, with the intention to upskill anyone of any skill level. I have an insatiable curiosity and desire to help the folks around me succeed and grow. So - Let's Do DevOps.

Links Referenced:

Day Two Cloud Podcast: https://packetpushers.net/podcast/day-two-cloud/

Kyler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylermiddleton/

Kyler's Blog on Medium: https://kymidd.medium.com/

Sponsor

Panoptica: https://www.panoptica.app/

Alex King is a key player at the Duckbill Group as our legal counsel, as well as the founder of his own law firm, Archetype Legal. In this episode, Alex shares insights on his role in helping startups and small businesses navigate legal complexities, emphasizing the importance of risk analysis and compliance. He explains that attorneys highlight risks, allowing business leaders to make informed decisions. Alex recounts his experiences guiding clients through various legal challenges, from hiring decisions to office leases. Corey discusses the unique legal scenarios faced by the Duckbill Group and highlights the benefits of Alex's unique approach.

Show Highlights:

(00:00) Introduction
(02:10) What Alex does for the Duckbill Group as legal counsel
(02:42) The role of an attorney for startups and established businesses
(07:20) Similarities and differences between what the advisers at Duckbill Group do and what Alex does as a lawyer
(11:56) Alex’s ability to provide context to legal decisions that would otherwise be missing
(22:07) How negotiating hiring contracts can work out if done wisely
(25:09) What Alex wishes people knew to make interacting with attorneys easier

About Alex:

Alex King is an attorney and the founder of Archetype Legal PC, a law firm dedicated to helping entrepreneurs, startups, and small businesses take practical legal steps to achieve their business goals. In addition, he is a Business Advisor for Pacific Community Ventures, a nonprofit supporting small business growth and job creation in low-income communities. His experience includes corporate law, business operations, and strategic planning.

Links Referenced:

• Website: https://www.archetypelegal.com/
• Email: alex@archetypelegal.com

Sponsor

Panoptica: https://www.panoptica.app/