Welcome to season 2 episode 2 of Brown Baby podcast. I am your host, Nikesh Shukla. This week's guest: Ben Bailey Smith. The rapper, the actor the writer. Known as Doc Brown, Ben has been a legend on the rap scene, an actor popping up in places like Law and Order UK, Des The Split and Four O Clock Club. He is a stand up. And now a writer of hilarious kids books like the recently released Something I Said, a hilarious book where or thirteen-year-old Carmichael Taylor, life is one big joke - in a good way. He just can't understand why no one else seems to find everything as funny as he does.

This is a podcast about parenting. It asks the question how do we raise our kids to be joyful in bleak times that make us so sad and angry. Each week, I invite a parent on to chat to me about their parenting journeys, how they’re navigating these tricky times with their kids, how to have big important conversations and how to still have fun and enjoy the world. This is a hopeful podcast about parenting. It’s inspired by my memoir, Brown Baby: A Memoir Of Race Family And Home, which has been out since February this year. I hope you have a copy!

Here is a link to a bookshop.org affiliate shop where you can buy all the books from previous guests: https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/brown-baby-podcast-guests

Brown Baby: A Memoir Of Race, Family And Home: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/246/9781529032918

Something I Said: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/246/9781526628688

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