In this episode:

 We interview Jim Lichtman, the author of Trust and Confidence – The Inside Story of the Battle Between the Secret Service and Ken Starr. This award-winning book comes out on during the 25th anniversary of the Starr Report. Jim Lichtman has been recognized as an expert in the field of ethics over the last 20 years. Join us as Jim explains how a 3-hour interview with Secret Service Director Lewis Merletti led him to spend 12 years investigating an incredible story of integrity, a story no one has heard before.

 This is a really great episode especially for those of you interested in the behind-the-scenes drama in the real-life political stories we see every day in the news!

 You can find more information about Jim Lichtman’s books and other work via the following links:

https://trustandconfidencebook.com

https://ethicsstupid.com/

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