Juan and Tim got together for a beer to rant about what's on their mind, the latest in the data world and share Data Day Texas takeaways

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Dr. Irina Steenbeek is a data practitioner, and author of multiple books including Data Lineage from a Business Perspective. In this episode, Juan and Tim discuss with Irina the practical realities of implementing data lineage and its relationship to Data and AI governance. For example, do you really need to have a comprehensive technical lineage? A lot of honest no-bs nuggets in this episode!

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This is the takeaway episode with Dr. Irina Steenbeek, a data practitioner, and author of multiple books including Data Lineage from a Business Perspective. In this episode, Juan and Tim discuss with Irina the practical realities of implementing data lineage and its relationship to Data and AI governance.

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A conversation with Jody Elliott, Head of IT Risk and Sustainability at National Grid, on embedding responsible AI and sustainability at scale.

In this episode of the ServiceNow Executive Circle Podcast, Jody Elliott, Head of IT Risk and Sustainability at National Grid, explores how sustainability, risk, and AI can work together to create real business value. Operating across critical national infrastructure in the UK and US, Jody shares why “good green operations are just good operations” and why sustainability and responsible AI must be embedded by design, not treated as standalone initiatives.

The conversation covers:

• How IT sustainability, e-waste policy, emissions reduction, and regulatory compliance can drive efficiency, trust, and innovation

• Practical, real-world AI use cases, including how generative AI can improve compliance and risk oversight by analysing large volumes of unstructured data

• The importance of AI literacy, human-in-the-loop governance, and strong control frameworks

• How organisations should prepare for emerging regulation, including the EU AI Act and CSRD

• What’s next—from rising energy demand and supply chain risk to the next wave of responsible technology

Tune in now for a practical, real-world look at how responsible AI and sustainability can drive efficiency, trust, and innovation at scale.

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AI, Skills, and the Future of Work at Aviva

In this episode of the ServiceNow Executive Circle podcast, Kat Finch is joined by Dan Godfrey, Group People Transformation and Talent Director at Aviva, to explore how people strategy, technology, and AI are coming together to reshape the future of work. Dan shares how Aviva’s scale, legacy, and long history influence its approach to transformation, and why operational readiness, adoption, and change management are just as critical as the technology itself. From learning and recruitment to people technology and data analytics, the conversation highlights how HR and IT must work in lockstep to deliver meaningful outcomes for both colleagues and customers.

The discussion also dives into the evolving role of AI in skills development, workforce planning, and customer experience. Some key topics include:

• The evolving role of AI in skills development, workforce planning, and customer experience

• Highlighting how Aviva is using AI to surface skills and support “squiggly careers”

• Showing how AI helps colleagues navigate future career paths and learning opportunities

• Emphasising the importance of human-in-the-loop governance, trust, and responsible use of AI

• Looking ahead to how AI could democratise financial services by making financial knowledge more accessible

• Reinforcing why investing in peoples capability remains the most critical transformation for organisations

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Ontologies are suddenly everywhere but they didn’t come out of nowhere.

In this episode, Juan and Tim chat with Professor Oscar Corcho, who has been doing ontology engineering since the early 2000s (check out his book Ontological Engineering from 2003), to demystify what ontologies actually are, where they came from, and why that history still matters today.

If you’re new to ontologies or feeling lost in the current hype, this episode gives you the grounding you didn’t know you needed to understand where the field has been and where it should be going next.

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This is the takeaway episode of our conversation with Professor Oscar Corcho, who has been doing ontology engineering since the early 2000s where we demystify what ontologies actually are, where they came from, and why that history still matters today.

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Juan and Tim rant about Context Graphs and categorizations of how companies work with data.

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