Juan and Tim have a rant session with a special guest in person, Jesús Barrasa, well known in the knowledge graph space. We covered AI trends, the balance between operational vs. strategic work, knowledge graphs, context graphs. The most valuable part of our rant was our pragmatic discussion about ontologies stripping them down to what they actually are and why they matter.

Starting to work with ontologies? Think about these two dimensions: WHAT (Formal, Explicit and Shared Meaning) and WHY (Interoperability, Automation).

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Most organisations know they're not getting value from their data and AI investments, but few are willing to name the real culprit: the boardroom. In this episode, Kyle Winterbottom joins Juan and Tim to argue that the mandates handed to CDAOs are fundamentally broken because the people hiring them don't understand what good looks like. Boards continue to build capability without starting with the end in mind, creating a culture where data leaders are rewarded for building things rather than delivering outcomes. The result? An entire industry that has learned to play the wrong game.

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This is the takeaway episode with Kyle Winterbottom where he argues that the mandates handed to CDAOs from the board are fundamentally broken because the people hiring them don't understand what good looks like. The result? An entire industry that has learned to play the wrong game.

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What is Agentic AI — and what can it actually do for your business? In this episode of the podcast, host Bobby Brill brings together three conversations with the people building Agentic AI at ServiceNow into one 20-minute briefing.

Whether you're leading a team, managing a platform, or just trying to understand what your company is investing in - this episode gives you the full picture.

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WHAT WE COVER

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RITA CASTILLO — VP of Design, Platform & AI

The clearest explainer of Agentic AI you'll find. Rita walks through the full evolution from scripted automation to agentic systems, what makes agentic different, and how the orchestrator-and-agent hierarchy works at ServiceNow.

AMRUTHA RAMESH — Visiting Researcher, ServiceNow

Amrutha built Agent Ada — a real AI agent designed to turn enterprise data into actionable insights. She explains how Ada understands your goal, adapts to who's asking, and delivers analysis your team can actually use.

ISSAM LARADJI & ANITHA RAGHAVAN — Research Scientist & Product Manager, ServiceNow

How do you know if your AI's insights are trustworthy? Issam and Anitha built InsightBench — a benchmark that uses AI to evaluate AI — to answer exactly that question.

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CHAPTERS

0:00 Introduction
1:30 What Is Agentic AI? — Rita Castillo, VP of AI Design
6:00 How Agents Work as a Team
10:30 Meet Agent Ada — Amrutha Ramesh, Visiting Researcher
16:00 Can You Trust Your AI? — Issam Laradji & Anitha Raghavan
21:30 Wrap-Up

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GUESTS

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Rita Castillo — VP, AI Design at ServiceNow

Amrutha Ramesh — Visiting Researcher, ServiceNow

Issam Laradji — Research Scientist, ServiceNow

Anitha Raghavan — Product Manager, ServiceNow

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LEARN MORE

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ServiceNow Agentic AI: https://www.servicenow.com

More episodes:

Narrative Analytics with Agent Ada: https://youtu.be/k1P9o2glq90

InsightBench & AgentPoirot: https://youtu.be/0_ikQQ82qAk

Understanding Agentic AI with Rita Castillo: https://youtu.be/JyFdcQChYLs

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ABOUT THIS PODCAST

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Hosted by Bobby Brill. ServiceNow INsights podcast explores the people, technology, and ideas shaping the future of work.

#AgenticAI #ServiceNow #AIAgents #ArtificialIntelligence #FutureOfWork #EnterpriseAI #DataAnalytics #NowAssist #MachineLearning #Podcast

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Stop treating AI governance like a compliance checkbox handed down from the boardroom. Kierra Dotson joins Juan and Tim to argue that the chasm between ambitious AI strategy and messy technical reality exists precisely because we've made governance someone else's problem. The fix? Empower engineers, data scientists, and product owners to own their role in shaping ethical, sustainable AI — not as a burden, but as the thing that makes the work actually matter.

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This is the takeaway episode with Kierra Dotson where she argues that the chasm between ambitious AI strategy and messy technical reality exists precisely because we've made governance someone else's problem.

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AI is the New UI… But Is Anyone Getting Value?

Big summer. New roles. Same obsession with transformation.

In this episode, Pete and Kat compare notes on what happens when you step into new gigs right as AI goes from “this is cool” to “okay… but is it actually doing anything?”

They get into:

• How AI is still, inconveniently, a people problem
• Why “AI is the new UI” is about to stop being a slogan
• Why most organisations don’t have an AI problem… they have a focus problem
• And yes… the AI reckoning that’s coming when everyone looks up and goes “oh no...what have we done?”
• A sneak peek at what’s coming at Knowledge (it’s big 👀)
• And Pete bravely preparing for a life without proper Australian coffee (thoughts and prayers)

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What does dentistry have to do with data analytics? More than you'd think. Thais Cooke went from cleaning teeth to cleaning datasets and her unconventional path turned out to be a superpower. In this episode, Thais joins Juan and Tim to talk about why subject matter expertise is the ultimate force multiplier, how to build trust with stakeholders (hint: "I don't know" is a valid answer), and why the best data professionals aren't technical specialists — they're problem solvers.

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