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Katie and Elan discuss trusting the process. Katie is silly and sad. Elan is afraid. They show up without a plan, just some intentions and fears. They think this podcast is going to be about People House (where they met) little do they know! Katie draws an icebreaker card (that is never used again) and gets a question from their fellow colleague Molly about bombing on stage.

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A Spiritual Dare is born, but Katie and Elan don’t even really know it. They are hashing out an intro (that is eventually discontinued). Elan shares his trust issues and they discuss Paul Zweig stepping back from People House. Katie wants to lighten up and by 22.29 into the show they are entering the spiritual dare. “This podcast has taken a turn” Elan says at 27:06. But by 29:14 it’s spoken, “A Spiritual Dare is a dare that helps you evolve.”

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By 17:02 Katie and Elan officially dare each other and unpack all the anxiety and vulnerability that comes up in saying yes to the dare. They also discuss how change, even good change is hard. Colleague Kathryn asks a question very similar to the episode before and Elan and Katie wonder if their therapist friends know any other comedians. They end with a PH fact that is almost too good to be true.

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Elan and Katie share the triggers coming up by implementing their Spiritual Dares. Elan unpacks his trust issues and they explore the role of fear in change. They discuss how this podcast escalated very fast and Elan shares his paranoia that Katie will dare him to shave off his eyebrows. Yet, they aren’t giving up and are committed to implementing their dares. By 25:45 Katie shares the details of her dare and how there is an intensity even in the mundanity of Katie’s day. They end by answering a question from colleague Katyln about interviews.

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Katie and Elan debrief their adventure to Wizard’s Chest that solidified the focus of the podcast. Elan is wearing a ziggy stardust jumpsuit and they are ready to commit to Spiritual Dares. They break down what exactly a Spiritual Dare is and define explorational questions.

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Update on spiritual dares and discussion on what to expect moving forward. The first 5 episodes were basically a process of uncovering what Elan and Katie were even doing here. By this episode they are fully into the dares, committed to this journey and exploring the synchronicities that show up from taking these risks. AND Elan and Katie are ready, even excited for Season 2!

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