Somehow, Penn and I will have been married for 20 years next year (what?!) It's an incredible feat, but with experiencing such a busy season of parenting, I can see how couples fall out of "like" with each other. This week, we give each of our own Top 5 tips on how to stay in like. Our producer, Ann Marie Taepke, also joins to play a fun game we call "Then" where we (you guessed it) get way too competitive. Very important: Tell us whether you think a Frosty is a milkshake or not and if Penn looks like Bob Barker in the aging booth app.

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Kim and Penn are online content creators known for their award-winning videos, including original music, song parodies, and comedy sketches. Their videos have resulted in over 2 billion views and 8 million followers across their social media platforms since they (accidentally) went viral in 2013. They have a best-selling book on marriage communication, a top-rated podcast, a fun-filled family card game, and most recently, they were the winners on Season 33 of The Amazing Race.

The Holderness Family Podcast is produced by Ann Marie Taepke and edited and engineered by Max Trujillo of Trujillo Media and Sam Allen.

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